Try calling sweeps. Stove shops are more concerned with keeping install prices down to sell more stoves than anything else.
BKVP should give us his thoughts on thisI believe you and others.
I guess BK should educate all the dealers in tristate
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Yes, that would be consistent. BK strongly recommends double-wall stove pipe for the same reason with freestanding stove installations.I guess BK should educate all the dealers in tristate
We can't all live in hermetic bubbles, Poindexter. I'm burning 300 million BTU's, and I'm only at 5000 annual HDD's.
The Ashford 25 bypass is not hinged and lift as in freestanding models or the Princess insert. It slides front to back. There is a removable baffle plate, then it's a straight shot up the flue. So cleaning from below is less obstructed and less likely to have debris accumulate behind the cat.
Ok good i have yet to come across one of them in the field. We dont have that many bks here but the ones we have are princesses and kings. It sounds like the ashfords are easier to clean without pulling the cat. Either way it really isnt a big deal to do. They are pretty easy to work on.
I don't think it's a BK dealer issue.....I think across the USA, many, far too many dealers, are not informed on codes and standards. There is no such thing as a BK dealer, they are hearth retailers. They sell many brands, So really, you are correct without a doubt, just far too many ignore or are not informed. As the OP found out, many sweeps (probably know the requirement if CSIA certified) still choose to not place insulated liners.
Very well said. And yes there are sweeps even csia ones who should know better that still choose to ignore the codes.
It really isnt up to the stove manufacturers to tell installers how to meet code. They all say the chimney should be up to all applicable codes. It really isnt their fault some installers dont do their job properly.
Honestly it is the liner manufacturers not the stove manufacturers that need to improve their manuals. It really isnt the stove manufacturers job or place to give proper instructions for other peoples products. I am not at all against stove manufacturers pushing this point. Anything to improve performance and safety is good. But it really isnt their job.
Other than what @Ashful , @bholler , @BKVP have said, Blaze King is specific with pointing out that they prefer an insulated liner due to the lower exhaust temps there stoves produce, this is because there stoves have a higher efficiency rating then most on the market, the epa reburn tube stove runs cleanest when secondary combustion kicks in at 1,150 deg F vs 550deg f for a cat stove, naturally the flue temps are going to be hotter with the epa tube stove because its ran a higher throttle to achieve its epa rating for a clean burn, while the cat stove can be throttled back, remain active in burning off smoke particles, producing heat while having a lower flue gas exhaust temp.
