Congratulations?That chain costs almost as much as I pay to have my Stihl chains sharpened.
Congratulations?That chain costs almost as much as I pay to have my Stihl chains sharpened.
How about the pferd v. Granberg?
How about the pferd v. Granberg?
At home I use an electric chain grinder for significant remedial work and to take rakers down. In the field I use a Husqvarna roller guide for touch-ups. It's a combination that works for me.
Just say "no" to home electric grinders. We did use that Husky roller for years ( it WAS an excellent hand sharpener that did only the edge, not rakers), until, until a pro logger friend showed me truth, the light, the absolute revelation of the Pferd systems. I do believe.
Only pro dealers with experienced techs, or pro loggers who NEED to grind, can safely use those electric grinders. They can too easily in the wrong hands --me and most of you --ruin by 'burning' or getting the wrong angles or size on those grinders. The set up for the few sizes of chains on multiple saws takes too long for my ale. All of us have a few saws in our pack.
Hey, I can sharpen close to as fast hand sharpening with the wondrous Pferds as you with those electric grinding monsters. Where do you plug them in in the field ? The Husky roller OR Pferd should be in your woods kit bubba.
The above is fact. Am I now being obnoxious ?![]()
Just say "no" to home electric grinders.
Only pro dealers with experienced techs, or pro loggers who NEED to grind, can safely use those electric grinders.
2) An electric grinder is probably the best way to get your chain sharp and back to like new condition as you can get. There's a reason saw shops , businesses ( successful tree services ) etc all have electric grinding machines. Businesses buy chain buy the roll. They hang 20 plus loops on their trucks. They sharpen those loops every couple days on the grinder and hand file as needed in the field.
I haven't read all the posts on this thread.....so I don't know if anyone has mentioned the Granberg precision grinder. It's their hand grinder mounted to their bar mount system from the original "file N joint". It takes a bit of practice to get really proficient and accurate on both sides with it, but it gives me better results than paying the local stihl shop. Hooks up to 12v batt. A regular re-sharpen takes only 5-10 minutes and is pro sharp. Like most I touch up with a hand file in the field.
Dude, you're talking well past the limits of what you actually know. Give it a rest.
OK, no dude ranches in Pittsburgh are there ?Go Patriots !
So let's do the fact check without the "dude" thingee.
The chisel/square chain is used only by users usually full time pros who cut CLEAN large timber like west coast softwood DBH > 30".
That chisel chain is difficult to hand sharpen ( NO, the Pferd will not do it .) but can be hand learned with an 'edged' file. I did ...once upon a time.
Most chainsaw users who cut for themselves, farmers, Eastern loggers use round chains.
Chisel chains dull quickly with ANY kind of debris, dirt, rot. Most of us harvesting for smaller, non commercial amounts of firewood, sawlogs, or pulp use the standard round chains since they don't dull as easily as chisels AND are easier and faster to touch up.
After > 2 decades cutting with too many saws, gradually working my way down in bar length and saw size, that Pferd tool works. Our northern dealer near Canada charges big $$$ to sharpen chisel chains and the 'normal' round ones. He runs hand filing classes since he says that anyone, even you urbans, should learn to hand sharpen.
Yuh, I am a Pferd enthusiast....no more......Mr. Dude. Use a grinder if it does the job.
Sorry I missed the pic details of the chisel chain. The eyes aren't too good in the morning after.
Electric chain grinders definitely require proper setup and a light touch, and they don't make sense for everyone. With that being stated, there are plenty of manually skilled people on this board who can do things like weld a proper bead, tie their own flies, or zero a rifle scope. They certainly can run a chain grinder.
Also note that there are different types of electric grinders, with some being easier than others to use. If a person knows how to use a standard round file in a guide, I have no trouble having them use a Granberg Grind-N-Joint.
I've got 4 decades in, and have only hand filed - no guides, no other tools, and most of the time no handle on the file either.
It's great that you like the Pferd & it does what you want - but that does not mean that everyone should use it, it's the only way to do it, or sharpening any other way is the wrong way. Which is what you are implying with your posts.
(Urbans?)
I-Pferd enough. Later Dudes.![]()
I really don't know who wears PPE all the time and who doesn't. I've also seen plenty of "pros" on utility crews and loggers who don't wear all PPE or even some PPE all the time.
Some of the the worst pro cutters I've seen are the utility crews (power, cable, phone, etc.) who work directly for the company or municipality.
The average barometric pressure on Mars is 0.6 kPa.
BUT WE DIGRESS...
Later, Dudes!
More "dude" dude. What rock did this "dude" thing come out from ?
Dude dude.Dude, dude. This some kind of secret code ....dude ? Enough...dude.
Single syllable short for "duty" ?
No "dudes" in Northeast Kingdom.Dude huh .
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