Yesterday it was $4.89 a gallon her and suppliers are expecting it to continue to rise. The also are telling people we will put you on the waiting list, we are working our way down.
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Karl_northwind
Minister of Fire
I'm just up the road from you and we're getting the same prices up here. my mother in law (whose LP heating system I just finished) is having a hard time getting propane at all.
I'm hooking up an electric water heater to heat my solar tank (unpressurized) when the temp of the tank gets above 130, the existing controls will turn force heat into the basement floor. running it all off peak at $0.06/kwh. which is about $18 per MMBTU as opposed to $4.89 propane which is about $59 per MMBTU. the basement floor and DHW is the only thing that gets propane, supplemented with solar, and now off peak electric.
bummer for a lot of people, but I hope it wakes up the masses about diversification of heating fuels. my wife is starting to talk with excitement about the boiler shed!
I'm hooking up an electric water heater to heat my solar tank (unpressurized) when the temp of the tank gets above 130, the existing controls will turn force heat into the basement floor. running it all off peak at $0.06/kwh. which is about $18 per MMBTU as opposed to $4.89 propane which is about $59 per MMBTU. the basement floor and DHW is the only thing that gets propane, supplemented with solar, and now off peak electric.
bummer for a lot of people, but I hope it wakes up the masses about diversification of heating fuels. my wife is starting to talk with excitement about the boiler shed!
I did HVAC work for a career, mainly large steam and HW boilers and chillers. I fitted my DHW flue with a Honeywell powered damper. With a power vent heater it gets it's signal from the flame module. It helps some but I don't know if it will ever pay for it self at a wholesale cost of $40.
I see the price has taken a small drop this week. Looks like the State of Michigan has it better than other states. How are prices in your area?
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W_EPLLPA_PRS_SMI_DPG&f=W
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W_EPLLPA_PRS_SMI_DPG&f=W
This is really a regional decision with different rates for all the fuels. I have had 3 different water heaters in the last 3 years. 1st was oil tankless coil boiler. Running only hot water was $1,400 a yr. Then an 80 gal electric $600 a yr. Now a 50 gal hpwh $200 a yr. This is not off peak anything. I also researched dryers, electric at .19 c kwh vs propane at $250 a gal Electric was 25 cents a load cheaper.
Yes electric would be much cheaper than $250 a gallon propane no doubt!! My gosh!! And I thought our propane was expensive!
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I'm also in NW Ohio. Guy at work here paid $5.80 per gallon.
This was the year to prebuy if using propain.
Tim
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W_EPLLPA_PRS_SMI_DPG&f=W
How are prices in your area? Michigan is back down a bit $3.359.
Minus temperatures again tonight and a wicked wind. On the upside I still haven't burned a drop of propane to heat and accelerated the payback time on the new boiler.
How are prices in your area? Michigan is back down a bit $3.359.
Minus temperatures again tonight and a wicked wind. On the upside I still haven't burned a drop of propane to heat and accelerated the payback time on the new boiler.
blackdoglabrador
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$4.38 a gallon in central vermont, $1 more then last year this time. Burned 25 gallons this month for heat, hot water, dryer, and stove. Looking to switch HPWH and electric dryer ($0.17kkwh)in the coming months (both need updating regardless). Based on my calculation it will be about $10 cheaper per million btu's for electric. Plus finish the radiant in my, hope to go to near zero propane usage this time next year.
I paid $2.99/gal last week.
Other suppliers in the area were over $5/gallon a couple weeks ago!
$2.57 a gallon is a good price this winter even though it is much more than last year and it might shock you if your not currently watching prices. Many have paid as high as $6 a gallon this winter, but around here I've only heard the price as high as $4.50 a gallon. I fill my tank every summer and it was $1.19 a gallon for my last fill. I'll see what it'll be this summer, I bet less than $1.50.
Sorry to hear of your propane purchase. I see quite a few empty woodpiles in our township too.
eauzonedan
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25 mi north of Hayward WI neighbor was just charged 4.59 and told cash up front or no fuel. I believe the
worst pain is confined in local areas. Weather guy in Duluth MN last night said its coldest recorded winter since mid 1800s and number two overall. Now please explain just why I picked this year to move north from Chicago?
worst pain is confined in local areas. Weather guy in Duluth MN last night said its coldest recorded winter since mid 1800s and number two overall. Now please explain just why I picked this year to move north from Chicago?
Karl_northwind
Minister of Fire
Salt water is looking pretty good to me after this stretch of weather.
Spent last weekend ice fishing on Green Bay, guess I will never learn!
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W_EPLLPA_PRS_SMI_DPG&f=W
Dropped 11 cents from last week. Seems to be a direct correlation to the outdoor temperature.
Dropped 11 cents from last week. Seems to be a direct correlation to the outdoor temperature.
Yeah, right back to normal. It is my opinion that it was not actually supply and demand that drove those high prices. More like an immoral gouging based on weather forecasts. In this area the propane was not depleted and the needed extra was supplied at an inflated cost to customers. So glad to have gone totally to cord wood.
I just can't figure out how the propane price spread can be so wide. I'd gladly pay $2.25/gal for a leased tank. I'm paying $4.35 right now. Its ridiculous. I'm going to look into changing companies this spring. If that doesn't work it might be time to swap out to a heat pump water heater.
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