2023 Severe Weather

[thewoodlands]

Heavy rains moved in about 20 minutes ago with some thunder in the distance, the worst (red) has finally moved through at 12:39 tonight.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

I don't think we got any rain last night. I was outside until 730 putting in a garage door at my kids Coach's house. As we were working, the Coach's wife came out and invited her to come in and bake some cookies. Kid was like heck yeah! Bye! The coach and I finished his install. Then we BSed inside until 9 or so, lol.

 

[thewoodlands]

When I looked at the rain gauge this morning, we received 27mm or 1.062992126 of rain, most of that was from the heavy downpours from last night.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

I missed the 27mm, part, I was thinking, that’s one heck of a graduated cylinder! Lol

 

[thewoodlands]

We'll see if this changes.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Hopefully it will move out to sea. The heaviest weather should be to the right of the storm I think.

 

[thewoodlands]

Hopefully it will move out to sea. The heaviest weather should be to the right of the storm I think.

That would be nice but they way this summer went, the odds are we'll get something from it.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Id prefer to keep some of the white pines standing, lol

 

[thewoodlands]

Id prefer to keep some of the white pines standing, lol

I hear ya on that, the bugs are doing more damage than the wind up here on the White Pines. We do have a area that was hit hard by the winds years before we bought the bigger lot, I need a small trail through that area so I can start cleaning up some of the downed pines, hopefully that will help with regrowth or just give us room to replant.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Bugs in the white pines? Carpenter ants? I’m not aware of anything going after them.

I’m worried about this

White Pine Blister Rust on Currants and Gooseberries

White pine blister rust is not a serious disease of currants and gooseberries; however, it is a very serious disease of white pines (Pinus strobus). Currants and gooseberries serve as an alternate host for the rust fungus that causes white pine blister rust. Therefore, planting currants and...

ohioline.osu.edu

 

[thewoodlands]

Bugs in the white pines? Carpenter ants? I’m not aware of anything going after them.

I’m worried about this

White Pine Blister Rust on Currants and Gooseberries

White pine blister rust is not a serious disease of currants and gooseberries; however, it is a very serious disease of white pines (Pinus strobus). Currants and gooseberries serve as an alternate host for the rust fungus that causes white pine blister rust. Therefore, planting currants and...

ohioline.osu.edu

Beetles, borers and ants, I've never had it conformed by the DEC but I'm sure if I sent them an email, they would respond back.

I have a few things going on tomorrow but I'll get their email for the Potsdam Office off the old computer and ask them tomorrow night about the White Pines in this area.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Thank you! It’d be good to keep an eye out for something if there’s something running amuck in the white pines. We’ve got a lot of them that I’ve tried to get taken down. They’re nearing end of life and I’d rather choose the time and direction they fall in. I suspect they came from the big fires of 1903 and 1905.

 

[thewoodlands]

I just saw on www.mynbc5.com that covers the Plattsburgh N.Y. area and Vermont that they are worried about possible flooding come midweek, they should have the areas that might be affected either tonight on the news or tomorrow.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Basement got washed last night. Later today ill be vacuuming.

 

[Ashful]

ughh... sounds like you've been through this before, so hopefully everything absorbent was already up off the floor.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Oh yeah, it was my Father’s house before mine. The soil is clay. My basement is a bucket.

There’s a plan to fix it, but it takes time.

 

[Ashful]

Oh yeah, it was my Father’s house before mine. The soil is clay. My basement is a bucket.

There’s a plan to fix it, but it takes time.

I’ve moved into three different old houses with water intrusion problems. The first two I fixed relatively easy, and the third (current) was easier to resolve by just redirecting the water to a safe exit point. Create a thread and dump a link to it here, if you want to discuss.

 

[begreen]

There are some threads on drainage and French drains in the DIY forum.

 

[thewoodlands]

Thank you! It’d be good to keep an eye out for something if there’s something running amuck in the white pines. We’ve got a lot of them that I’ve tried to get taken down. They’re nearing end of life and I’d rather choose the time and direction they fall in. I suspect they came from the big fires of 1903 and 1905.

I just sent the email out to the local DEC about what are after the White Pines in this area, once they respond, I'll post the answer.

 

[thewoodlands]

Bugs in the white pines? Carpenter ants? I’m not aware of anything going after them.

I’m worried about this

White Pine Blister Rust on Currants and Gooseberries

White pine blister rust is not a serious disease of currants and gooseberries; however, it is a very serious disease of white pines (Pinus strobus). Currants and gooseberries serve as an alternate host for the rust fungus that causes white pine blister rust. Therefore, planting currants and...

ohioline.osu.edu

The DEC officer responded back and this was on the list.

White Pine Weevil

The white pine weevil is considered the most destructive insect pest of eastern white pine in North America.

extension.psu.edu

This was another link he sent.

Eastern White Pine - Modern Disease Threats to a Historically Important Species

Our long history with the white pine continues as modern diseases take root.

extension.psu.edu

 

[gthomas785]

My area got 8" of rain last night over about 4 hours. The tracks are where the ground used to be.

 

[thewoodlands]

My area got 8" of rain last night over about 4 hours. The tracks are where the ground used to be.
View attachment 315311

That's a chit load in 4.

 

[begreen]

I read that Leonminster area got 11" from this storm and more downpours are predicted for Wednesday. Let's hope Lee follows the US weather model path and not the path that the Euro weather predictions show.

 

[thewoodlands]

This system is hitting before Lee, I think tonight we could get a quarter inch of rain from it. Tomorrow I think the rainfall totals for here will be less than tonight.

 

[thewoodlands]

One product issued by NWS for: 2 Miles N Worcester MA

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Flood Watch​

Flood Watch
National Weather Service Boston/Norton MA
1258 PM EDT Tue Sep 12 2023

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Hartford CT-Tolland CT-Windham CT-Eastern Franklin MA-Northern
Worcester MA-Central Middlesex MA-Western Essex MA-Eastern Essex
MA-Eastern Hampshire MA-Eastern Hampden MA-Southern Worcester MA-
Western Norfolk MA-Southeast Middlesex MA-Suffolk MA-Eastern
Norfolk MA-Northern Bristol MA-Western Plymouth MA-Eastern
Plymouth MA-Southern Bristol MA-Southern Plymouth MA-Northern
Middlesex MA-Northwest Providence RI-Southeast Providence RI-
Western Kent RI-Eastern Kent RI-Bristol RI-Washington RI-Newport
RI-
Including the cities of Union, Lowell, Narragansett, Barre,
Framingham, Newport, Cambridge, Taunton, Windsor Locks, Vernon,
Northampton, East Greenwich, Foxborough, Bristol, Greenfield,
Norwood, Milford, West Warwick, Ayer, Willimantic, West
Greenwich, Westerly, Mattapoisett, Fitchburg, Brockton, Plymouth,
Coventry, Quincy, Providence, Smithfield, Worcester, Gloucester,
Hartford, Putnam, Foster, Amherst, New Bedford, Fall River,
Warwick, Springfield, Boston, Lawrence, and Orange
1258 PM EDT Tue Sep 12 2023

...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH THURSDAY
MORNING...

* WHAT...Flooding caused by excessive rainfall is possible.

* WHERE...Portions of northern Connecticut, including the following
areas, Hartford CT, Tolland CT and Windham CT. Portions of
Massachusetts, including the following areas, Central Middlesex
MA, Eastern Essex MA, Eastern Franklin MA, Eastern Hampden MA,
Eastern Hampshire MA, Eastern Norfolk MA, Eastern Plymouth MA,
Northern Bristol MA, Northern Middlesex MA, Northern Worcester MA,
Southeast Middlesex MA, Southern Bristol MA, Southern Plymouth MA,
Southern Worcester MA, Suffolk MA, Western Essex MA, Western
Norfolk MA and Western Plymouth MA. Portions of Rhode Island,
including the following areas, Bristol RI, Eastern Kent RI,
Newport RI, Northwest Providence RI, Southeast Providence RI,
Washington RI and Western Kent RI.

* WHEN...From Wednesday morning through Thursday morning.

* IMPACTS...Excessive runoff may result in flooding of streets,
urban areas, as well as low-lying, poor drainage and flood-prone
locations. The Wednesday afternoon commute may be impacted by
heavy rain. Rapid-onset flash flooding is possible. Flooding may
be locally significant where persistent downpours develop and
especially areas that have seen severe flooding over the last 24
to 48 hours. This includes the potential for water in homes and
businesses, road washouts and structural damage. Small creeks and
streams may experience sharp rises to over bankfull.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...
- Highly saturated conditions continue across much of Southern
New England, and some locations are still recovering from
severe flooding that occurred on Monday. A slow moving
frontal system moving in will bring another round of slow-
moving downpours and embedded thunderstorms from west to
east. One to two inches of rain are forecast, although
localized amounts up to four inches are possible. This will
worsen existing flooding and/or trigger new areas of
flooding.
- http://www.weather.gov/safety/flood

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

You should monitor later forecasts and be alert for possible Flood
Warnings. Those living in areas prone to flooding should be prepared
to take action should flooding develop.