lsucet
Minister of Fire
I was just comparing what I paid in town and how many gallons of LP I can buy with that money. Let's take heat pump and LP out of the way that way Ashful stop tripping. That's why I went into BK land, avoiding the tripping.
Can someone direct me to the BK thread? I tripped into heatpump and LP land.
It doesn't have to make sense to you Woody. It made sense to both parties involved I guess. I already apologized about the yuppie comment. I forget how connected people are while on the internet. I'm thinking we are polar opposites is all. I joined to learn whats new and see what's going on out there. I fell into a rabbit hole instead. I'll leave you to it, and see myself out the doorOK, I don't know what happened or why they didn't want to install your stove. All I know is you think they lied. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I live near Canada in the Pacific Northwest. I don't mind visiting an urban area for a few hours or maybe even two or three nights but I could never live in one. Too many people. I've been to Missoula a number of times over the last 30 years (and Billings twice). I used to live in Whitefish. I like visiting Missoula, friendly place. There are a few yuppies there but I'm pretty sure none of them work in a woodstove store! Besides, I don't find the term "Yuppie" offensive at all. I've met plenty of smart, fun people that WERE yuppies! Nothing wrong with that.
Can someone direct me to the BK thread? I tripped into heatpump and LP land.
It doesn't have to make sense to you Woody. It made sense to both parties involved I guess.
BK and BMW are alike. They don't have the best look, they look outdated , they break like anything else but for some reason not many people want to go back into anything else.lol always there is room for improvement that's for sure.Oh, you noticed that also?
OK, some BK boosters might not like this but, as much as I like my new BK, I think facts, truth and real information is always more valuable than "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil". This is not an attempt to disparage what I think is probably one of the greatest wood-burning stove line-ups available today, rather an attempt to bring out more info, more knowledge and more impressions of what makes a catalytic stove, especially BK catalytic stoves, not only different and better that the competition but also what could be better. It's fine to mention the good but lets do our best to also highlight the bad, and if my early experiences are representative, the bad is mostly minor nitpicks, not major flaws. A better way to put this is what could BK do to make their stoves a little better?
Any ideas or is everyone so enamored with whatever model BK they have that they can't find a single flaw, nit-pick or suggestion?
Oh, you noticed that also?
OK, some BK boosters might not like this but, as much as I like my new BK, I think facts, truth and real information is always more valuable than "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil". This is not an attempt to disparage what I think is probably one of the greatest wood-burning stove line-ups available today, rather an attempt to bring out more info, more knowledge and more impressions of what makes a catalytic stove, especially BK catalytic stoves, not only different and better that the competition but also what could be better. It's fine to mention the good but lets do our best to also highlight the bad, and if my early experiences are representative, the bad is mostly minor nitpicks, not major flaws. A better way to put this is what could BK do to make their stoves a little better?
Any ideas or is everyone so enamored with whatever model BK they have that they can't find a single flaw, nit-pick or suggestion?
An out of balance fan can vibrate strongly at certain rpm. Has the fan been thoroughly cleaned? Dust accumulation on the blades can cause an imbalance.My only gripes are the mandatory dealer interaction and the squirrel cage fan on the insert. It's functional, but part of its range (~25% of the dial in the medium-high zone) was rattling loudly after 1 season, and it is not improving with age.
Fixing a dying fan isn't a major project, but it's not a cheap stove either.
I haven't reached out to BK about it because I don't want to keep putting in replacement fans; I'd rather figure out what the issue is and fix it once. (Besides, they're not a fan company; their troubleshooting procedure for that part is probably 'clean it and lube it, then put in a new one'.)
The fan really isn't a big deal for me, but the dealer thing is.
Either way, it's an amazing wood stove.
Poindexter...I was looking for you in the Clean Air Fairbanks conference on Friday and Saturday. Didn't see you.My biggest problem with my Ashford 30, i have been thinking about this all day, well, umm, i really wish, don't laugh now, but i really wish i could wax it to give the enamel a little more gleam.
I actually built a cinderblock bbq pit this weekend, the better to smoke up my airshed with the scent of dry hickory and cooking beef instead of burning wet birch like my back fence neighbor.You were probably working.
I participate on this site for that very reason.Oh, you noticed that also?
OK, some BK boosters might not like this but, as much as I like my new BK, I think facts, truth and real information is always more valuable than "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil". This is not an attempt to disparage what I think is probably one of the greatest wood-burning stove line-ups available today, rather an attempt to bring out more info, more knowledge and more impressions of what makes a catalytic stove, especially BK catalytic stoves, not only different and better that the competition but also what could be better. It's fine to mention the good but lets do our best to also highlight the bad, and if my early experiences are representative, the bad is mostly minor nitpicks, not major flaws. A better way to put this is what could BK do to make their stoves a little better?
Any ideas or is everyone so enamored with whatever model BK they have that they can't find a single flaw, nit-pick or suggestion?
Warming fires are permitted by DEC.I actually built a cinderblock bbq pit this weekend, the better to smoke up my airshed with the scent of dry hickory and cooking beef instead of burning wet birch like my back fence neighbor.
Ashful,I have two gripes with my pair of BK stoves, but before I go into them, I'll say that BK is already working on addressing both of them. So, while no stove is perfect, I couldn't have bought them from a better company.
1. The ash plug in both of my Ashfords is not centered over the ash pan, but right over the rear edge of the ash pan. So, when I try to use it, I end up with a good portion of the hot coals on the floor under the stove. My stove shop states that's because the floor was welded in backwards on the early 30.1's, but I do not know if this is gospel. In any case, BK is sending me parts to correct the issue, but I was told to be prepared for a fairly major tear-down. Their F-up, but they're supporting the solution, so it's hard to complain about that.
2. My combustor seems to clog whenever I run the stove on high for any period of time. Again, BK is very interested in this, as they report having not seen it before. They're going to be working with me, when we get some weather cold enough to warrant running a pair of Ashford 30's on high, to investigate and resolve this issue.
So, I hold BK in similar regard to Woodstock. They have some of the best stoves on the market, but more importantly, an interest in resolving any of the issues that will inevitably arise in such a business.
I participate on this site for that very reason.
We are always improving on function, emissions and efficiency.
I cannot provide details on specific changes, those are absolutely propriety. This is after all a public forum.
An out of balance fan can vibrate strongly at certain rpm. Has the fan been thoroughly cleaned? Dust accumulation on the blades can cause an imbalance.
Compressed air and shop vac does the trick. I will often let the fans run while I watch them. Once the rattle starts you can tweak the blower bracket around and get it to stop. Usually can get it to settle down.Nope, external vaccuming only (cover off of the stove, but fan assembly not pulled). I'll try to remember to take it apart before I start burning this year, and post my findings. It'll be a little anticlimactic if it gets fixed by rinsing the cage in the kitchen sink! It should be pretty easy to troubleshoot.
A couple years ago you had a burning cycle line graph for the BK king, can you guys please repost that back on your website?I participate on this site for that very reason.
We are always improving on function, emissions and efficiency.
I cannot provide details on specific changes, those are absolutely propriety. This is after all a public forum.
Over the past 8 years, I believe forum members, regardless of what stove they own, can vouch we have shared a substantial amount of technical information and experience.
These forums are filled not with "BK boosters", rather actual owners that share their real world experiences with our products. Both positive and negative.
We have operated in full disclosure, the Princess with the loose door glass to name one.
Lastly, as a manufacturer, my comments have to be crafted carefully so as to fully address the topic and remain mindful of site policies regarding "selling".
Thank you for your purchase of the Chinook and we hope it will keep you warm for many winters.
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These forums are filled not with "BK boosters", rather actual owners that share their real world experiences with our products. Both positive and negative.
A couple years ago you had a burning cycle line graph for the BK king, can you guys please repost that back on your website?
These forums are filled not with "BK boosters", rather actual owners that share their real world experiences with our products. Both positive and negative.
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