Tonyray
Minister of Fire
correct also. but somethings u don't know there won't change anything.. just trying to simplify it all for ya without the complete scientific end of it..
Wow.. what a great thread.. gotta go see who started it days ago..
Question About Harman Manual Igniter Position
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Wow.. what a great thread.. gotta go see who started it days ago..
alternativeheat
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Great ! No HD should have some, if not TSC will.
Signing out now, I'm going upstairs to read.
When we were considering which forms of alternative heat to use we decided on pellets due to lower maintainance and the ability to ramp totally off and auto-restart. As well, it seems that the wife and I like it cooler than most here, another reason that Room / Auto works best for us. If we ran in Stove mode we'd roast ourselves out or have to play with the settings too often.
correct also. but somethings u don't know there won't change anything.. just trying to simplify it all for ya without the complete scientific end of it..
Wow.. what a great thread.. gotta go see who started it days ago..
I think I'm guilty Tony.
alternativeheat
Minister of Fire
I don't know but I have a question for you though 007. You have two Harman stoves, do you run them both at once and do you run them both in RTA ?
Tonyray
Minister of Fire
correct also. but somethings u don't know there won't change anything.. just trying to simplify it all for ya without the complete scientific end of it..
Wow.. what a great thread.. gotta go see who started it days ago..
prob just about there I assume.
My stoves are in two different locations, one in Mass, the other in Maine. The Invincible is a dinosaur (by most standards) and is a manually operated stove. My P61A runs in RTA in the shoulder seasons and RTM when the heart of winter sets in. Both FR are set at 4. I have resisted the urge to get involved in this thread and now we are 158 posts deep. Those of us who have been here for a few years know that this RTA/RTM debate comes up every year. It gets debated ad nauseum. To each his own as everyone's individual situation is different. Having said that, this practice of screwing with the feed rate to get what you want is ill advised. Harmans aren't supposed to be run that way, period. I'm fine with those of you that want to do it, but so many new and inexperienced users read these threads and take them as gospel and could easily get into trouble by following some of the advice and opinions written here. As stated above, I think this one has run its course.
alternativeheat
Minister of Fire
I get sucked in every Fall LOL, then run as I run all winter, RTM generally. However, one is led to wonder why Harman would put such a range of numbers on their feed rate dial if all that is to be used is 3-5 and anything else is detrimental to what ever end.
RTA works pretty well for me all in all, generally my feed is pretty much set as yours is. OK you are for shutting down the thread, I'll back off for now and see where it goes.
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Pete Zahria
Minister of Fire
Why?
Has there been a definitive answer?
Have there been rude, inflammatory comments?
As a new to Harman pellet stove user,
I am enjoying the different comments and suggestions.
It's now the beginning of the winter season, and most people here
you can tell, have perked up and are glad to be talkin' pellets...
Any time I see a thread that I don't care about,
I simply don't open it up....... YMMV, of course.
It's better than talking about how dumb it is to use pellets......
Dan
alternativeheat
Minister of Fire
He's been around a few years, knows his stoves inside and out. And yes this comes up every year, usually by relatively new users and when all is said and done the same conclusions are reached. How he operates his stoves is basically how, most of the time, I operate mine but I have to say I did learn a couple of things from this thread too. Reinforced some things as well..
Pete Zahria
Minister of Fire
I get it. I'm not there yet..
Well my point was, someone like me, with about 15 bags through a brand new stove,
appreciates the posts/threads.
Like I said, if a thread is of no interest, or too boring,
I'll never figure why people feel compelled to open it.
Dan
alternativeheat
Minister of Fire
Ya I get it. It's been interesting actually, I've followed it from the get go even if I don't agree with all that has been said.I get it. I'm not there yet..
Well my point was, someone like me, with about 15 bags through a brand new stove,
appreciates the posts/threads.
Like I said, if a thread is of no interest, or too boring,
I'll never figure why people feel compelled to open it.
Dan
He's just cranky because he recently came across a problem he hasn't yet been able to solve.I get it. I'm not there yet..
Well my point was, someone like me, with about 15 bags through a brand new stove,
appreciates the posts/threads.
Like I said, if a thread is of no interest, or too boring,
I'll never figure why people feel compelled to open it.
Dan
Frankly I'm enjoying the discussion and still getting something out of it.
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bogieb
Minister of Fire
That was my reaction too. I think there are several people learning things, and thinking of ways to use the "4th method" that isn't ever addressed in the manual (or at least not the manuals I have). This isn't even a debate - but respectful discussion and explanations of what people are using and have found in their experimentation. I find it odd that the person to aver a definitive
, is the person that says the thread has run its course (although there has been no participation by said person until now in this respectful discourse).
I guess my mistake was thinking this forum was for all levels of experience - I didn't realize that we shouldn't discuss anything a newbie might not find in black and white in the manual.
.......yet....He's just cranky because he recently came across a problem he hasn't yet been able to solve.
alternativeheat
Minister of Fire
Put it in feed rate 1 Stove Temp Auto output 5, some here think that cures everything LOL !.......yet....
Just kidding guys, don't arm the firing squad !
Tonyray
Minister of Fire
a year or so from now some newbie will find this thread and learn alot.. what to do and what Not to do..
when I got my stove I Spent a few weeks reading almost every post from years gone from day 1 just to educate myself on my new Appliance.
and the thread goes on........
Pete Zahria
Minister of Fire
True.
But the value of doing it whenever... is that like all things,
there are periodic changes, improvements, or the opposite to products.
I would never have known about different boards,
or 12 fins, 15 fins, shark fins, whatever..
or in some cases "built prior to's" or things of that nature,
if not for reading about them here...
Dan
Brand new stove, 2 weeks old, not ready to condemn the Board yet. I don't want to get off track so the thread on that subject is here:Told ya. Board.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/brand-new-harman-p43-question.149252/
Tonyray
Minister of Fire
Another way to look at it... good point.... room/auto works for me on not cold days...I lose too much heat to use it in brrrr weather.
Tonyray
Minister of Fire
do u notice any difference is things like maybe more ash or a dirtier stove?
always been drilled to us that lower feed will gunk up the stove but maybe not when constant feed and burn are at play.
I know the stop/go of normal room auto makes lot of ash.
Pete Zahria
Minister of Fire
This is what I am expecting out of it, too.....
When the weather was mild last week, the stove shut off, and started up,
just like you would expect... but the colder nights, it's been on room/manual, just so there is
always "some" heat coming up.
REALLY cold weather, I think I an going to want medium-medium_high heat/constantly!
Dan
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