Picked up my Englander SSW02 (Big madison)

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Ill have to check mine to see if it seals good .the dollar bill test. Also did anyone ever find out if the air adjustment rod being pulled out when you open the door is a design defect or done on purpose.
Just give the spring a slight bend upward and it won't hit anymore. It doesn't take much and not enough to notice it's slightly bent. You could bend the rod itself if you wanted but I would be afraid it would affect the function of the rod.
 
Just give the spring a slight bend upward and it won't hit anymore. It doesn't take much and not enough to notice it's slightly bent. You could bend the rod itself if you wanted but I would be afraid it would affect the function of the rod.
Yes but was that done on purpose by englander?
 
My guess is once they get the stove back they will cut the hinges off and weld them back on a little shorter to put more pressure on the gasket as it should have been like that. I'm hoping that their fix doesn't cause the door to warp and lift away in other spots.
My guess is that they will not even get the stove back. It will most likely get scrapped long before it makes it back to englander
 
Yes but was that done on purpose by englander?
Not sure, I would imagine after a while of use it would wear off the plating on the spring. Does yours actually move when you open the door? My spring just hits the door and doesn't move.
 
Not sure, I would imagine after a while of use it would wear off the plating on the spring. Does yours actually move when you open the door? My spring just hits the door and doesn't move.
When i open the door it pulls the rod out ,close it,it pushes it back in. Seems opposite of what you would want which is open the air further on opening the door to avoid smoke spill.
 
When i open the door it pulls the rod out ,close it,it pushes it back in. Seems opposite of what you would want which is open the air further on opening the door to avoid smoke spill.
That and with a fresh reload I wouldn't want to shut it down until it started going pretty good.
 
Well I got my replacement stove and it is spot on for straightness. No bow in either the door or the front of the stove on the bottom. The top is slightly bowed inward but the door is straight enough to seal it and barely noticeable using the level. All in all in very pleased with the level of service I received. The best type of customer service is not needing it but when you do you hope a company stands behind the product. This case is one of them.

For those that aren't sure about the size of this stove here is a picture for perspective. My son is 2 years old 36" tall. [Hearth.com] Picked up my Englander SSW02 (Big madison)

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So what's the difference between that stove and the 30NC? They look very similar. Great photo by the way.
 
So what's the difference between that stove and the 30NC? They look very similar. Great photo by the way.
I have both stoves, the 30NC and the Summers H 50. I think they are completely different. TheNC 30 has a small door and viewing glass and a deeper firebox but is neither tall nor wide. Also it sits so close to the floor i have mine up on 16" of cement blocks. No such platform needed as you can see with the 50 and the viewing glass and door is so much larger.
 
I have both stoves, the 30NC and the Summers H 50. I think they are completely different. TheNC 30 has a small door and viewing glass and a deeper firebox but is neither tall nor wide. Also it sits so close to the floor i have mine up on 16" of cement blocks. No such platform needed as you can see with the 50 and the viewing glass and door is so much larger.

To be fair, the NC30 door is not small compared to other stoves, it's just that the 50 is bigger than most.
 

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To be fair, the NC30 door is not small compared to other stoves, it's just that the 50 is bigger than most.
True , I also have a Harman TL-300 and the door and viewing glass is quite larger than the 30. The 30 is kind of deep and not so wide and tall ,as if the door is on the small side of a rectangle whereas the 50 is more like a box where the door is on the largest side and door frame is small giving more area for the ceramic glass and such a great fire view. I bought the 50 JUST for the fire view ,but also knowing englanders good reputation for making great stoves. I didnt really need another stove at all ,so now i have an extra NC30.
 
30 and 50ssw02 is the same style firebox but they take 4" of the back (one fire brick width) of the 30 and add a bigger door. The firebox on the 50ssw02 is 3.2 cu.ft. This is a monster of a stove made to heat a big area. Maybe I'm just used to my Vogelzang Defender but the 50ssw02 is big.

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Using the name "50" is misleading. The 3.2 cu ft stove is the 50SSW02, but the 2.4 cu ft Madison is model 50SSW01. Both are "50s"
 
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Using the name "50" is misleading. The 3.2 cu ft stove is the 50SSW02, but the 2.4 cu ft Madison is model 50SSW01. Both are "50s"
Probably should call it the 2400 vs the 2000 and the 1800 referring to the SF heating estimate.
 
I told Englander they should call the larger model the Monroe, keeping with the "M" presidential naming theme.
 
I told Englander they should call the larger model the Monroe, keeping with the "M" presidential naming theme.

I'm burning in my little 3.5 c.f. Englander "nixon" nc30 right now. The insulated slab in my shop is pretty cold, trying to warm it up to prevent the spring sweats that we can get this time of year.
 
The stove has been working great with 2 loads every 24 hours. Still baking the paint a little based on the smell but the picture was taken in the room adjacent to the stove where I haven't taken the wall down yet. The rooms above the stove are 70 the large living room is 68 with 12' vault and the boys bedrooms furthest away from the stove are 67 this is all without vents cut in yet. I'm extremely impressed by this stove.
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Waiting for the really cold weather next week for some full temp burns. Havnt had this stove long enough to see what it can do when it really cold outside and the flue draft will increase.
 
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Did my first full temp full stove burn today. Good day for it as it snowed all day. Wet sloppy kind of snow. Now im really impressed with this stove .I can say it does not like weak draft,but once the flue is warmed up, look out. That huge front door does the magic and puts on a great fire show. Holds 600 stove top on lowest air setting.
 
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Another thing iv noticed is the glass stays very clean even on low air,the whole stove has no soot or black spots after a burn and the wood burns to a fine powder. Screaming secondaries,puts on a good show.
 
I have the smaller version of this (SSW01) gotta say I like it as well. Have you had a chance to try the AAS on it yet? I like it so far. Can load the stove up and go get coffee, switch over laundry, what ever and not be like, OH SNAP I forgot the stove wide open. Personally my only complaint about the AAS so far is that it doesn't gradually set the air down to your set point but goes from full air to where you have it set all at once. But it does make running the stove easier for my wife so it's a huge plus.
 
Yeah mine doesn't draft great with a cold pipe either. how tall is your chimney? Mine's 15' with 2 45° elbows and 4' of diagonal pipe. I'm thinking about adding 1 for 3' section. I haven't seen stove temps as high as yours but its been around 20° with our overnights and daytime highs of 45° so the blower hasn't stopped. It does crank around 400°-450° with the blower on high and my eco fan. Thinking about getting one more eco fan and just leaving the blower off, it's pretty loud. I have been using about 12 splits ranging from 4"-7" in 24 hours of non stop running. I think that's pretty good for heating a 3000 sq.ft. house. Haven't you heard the nc 30 blower? I'm wondering if it's quieter?

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I have the smaller version of this (SSW01) gotta say I like it as well. Have you had a chance to try the AAS on it yet? I like it so far. Can load the stove up and go get coffee, switch over laundry, what ever and not be like, OH SNAP I forgot the stove wide open. Personally my only complaint about the AAS so far is that it doesn't gradually set the air down to your set point but goes from full air to where you have it set all at once. But it does make running the stove easier for my wife so it's a huge plus.
Yeah I haven't used it yet, I usually get the stove top temp to around 250 then shut the door let her simmer to 300 then close off the air. Only once did I have to open the air back up get her rolling. I'll have to give it a go.

You guys closing the air control completely when running or leaving her a little cracked? Also which way are you loading it? My firewood is cut to 16" to accommodate my little stove so I load n/s a lot. Some fresher ash I have is cut to 21" boy those logs will hold some coals overnight. I do like waking up to a nice coal bed 9 hours later.

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You guys closing the air control completely when running or leaving her a little cracked? Also which way are you loading it?
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I close it all the way. Can hold 600 stove top temps with all the way closed no reason to torch through the wood any faster. Its a little slow getting started on a cold chimney but once its warmed up it burns super clean. Keeps the door glass way cleaner than my NC-30 which i have to clean daily.