Performed surgery on my new stove.

[Vg3200p]

@moresnow yes this will be for testing purposes. Once I find the right combo I'll make something more permanant

 

[Prometeo]

Found another reason why this stove runs crazy. Pulled the jackets off the sides just for shots and giggles and found 3 more unregulated secondary holes on each side. I got some magnets I'm gonna play around with to see If I can get this thing to run with no damper. On a side note I always thought I saw smoke running out of the jacket on while I was loading and figured it was coming out the front door and working its way over there. Nope. Those 6 holes pour smoke when the door is open

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it makes no apparent sense. the jackets you removed should produce convection, i.e. heating and pushing air, with the holes the convection is damaged. Was this stove new?

 

[Vg3200p]

@ Mirco22 yes this stove was new. Just horribly designed.

 

[Vg3200p]

Ok so mild night tonight. 40f. Blocked off 3 of the six holes hidden underneath jacket. Overall i have probably blocked of 80% of air that this stove could breath in its (low burn) setting. I truly don't know how they didn't literally melt the stoves when they tested this design. Stove is running exactly how I want now finally. I have primary open maybe 10% to keep flue temps up right now. So when it gets real cold again it should be about perfect with primary all the way closed. I still have the dampers just in case. Stt at 630 flue surface at 235 nice lazy secondaries.

 

[3650]

Ok so mild night tonight. 40f. Blocked off 3 of the six holes hidden underneath jacket. Overall i have probably blocked of 80% of air that this stove could breath in its (low burn) setting. I truly don't know how they didn't literally melt the stoves when they tested this design. Stove is running exactly how I want now finally. I have primary open maybe 10% to keep flue temps up right now. So when it gets real cold again it should be about perfect with primary all the way closed. I still have the dampers just in case. Stt at 630 flue surface at 235 nice lazy secondaries.

Keep in mind when flue temps get below 250 creosote will form in the chimney. Especially if the wood isn’t dry enough.

 

[brenndatomu]

If that 235* pipe temp is external (and I think it is) then it's fine

 

[3650]

Oh I thought it was single wall

 

[Vg3200p]

This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading

 

[Vg3200p]

I'm just so happy it's not running away finally. Having a few drinks to celebrate lol

 

[3650]

This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading

I thought that was for double wall but I’m probably confused. Carry on!

 

[brenndatomu]

This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading

At 235* on singlewall surface you are probably 475* ish internal...that'll do...

 

[Prometeo]

congratulations for resolving, and posting, it might be helpful to others

 

[Vg3200p]

I ran the loads last night and tonight with the jackets off. Ran great. Put the jackets back on and I think it made the remaining open holes draft harder. It wasn't running away but hotter than what I would like with full air shutdown. So I covered a 4th hole partway into tonight's burn. She seems to run really well there. One good thing about this stove is that it always makes pretty secondaries that last a long long time. Dampers all the way open tonight. I suspect when really cold weather returns she'll be running with 1 closed but that's ok.

 

[VirginiaIron]

Thank you to every one who has helped on this thread. That why I love hearth.com alot of people trying to help each other. The problem with this stove is way to much air plain and simple. Finally got her figured put. I've blocked probably 80 to 90% of possible air and now she's running how I want her to. I need to go back through it and redo some things. When I buy a welder I'll weld air routs closed instead of using stove silicone. The way us stove co designed this stove is highly dangerous. I don't know how they didn't burn the stove down on emmisions tests. Ive tried to contact the company multiple times to tell them how dangerous this product is with no luck. I've tried to post a review on thier website twice. But they must block it because it's negative. They have lost a customer for life. Hopefully can limp this pile along for a decade or so. Then buy a real stove lol. Thanks again for everyone's help

Interesting thread. I'm sorry you have had these issues. I've read the complete thread and understand it is a US Stove, but I do not know which US stove model this is. If I missed the model information, could you please restate the model again?

** If you believe the stove is a safety concern and over firing, it should be reported to the product recall site as stated clearances may not be sufficient for repeated and prolonged over firing.

Recalls & Product Safety Warnings

www.cpsc.gov

 

[bholler]

Interesting thread. I'm sorry you have had these issues. I've read the complete thread and understand it is a US Stove, but I do not know which US stove model this is. If I missed the model information, could you please restate the model again?

** If you believe the stove is a safety concern and over firing, it should be reported to the product recall site as stated clearances may not be sufficient for repeated over firing.

Recalls & Product Safety Warnings

www.cpsc.gov

Us stove co will never recall anything

 

[VirginiaIron]

Us stove co will never recall anything

The United States Consumer Product Safety Commission will force them to recall the item if necessary.

Recalls & Product Safety Warnings

www.cpsc.gov

 

[bholler]

The United States Consumer Product Safety Commission will force them to recall the item if necessary.

Recalls & Product Safety Warnings

www.cpsc.gov

They would just close and reopen under another name

 

[begreen]

They've been skirting regulations for a few decades from what I recall. Got their hands slapped a few times, but still around.