All the buzz lately has been about the AS though, that's where I was going.Both the Ideal Steel and Absolute steel from Woodstock boast a "budget" oriented price point with very low emissions.
All the buzz lately has been about the AS though, that's where I was going.Both the Ideal Steel and Absolute steel from Woodstock boast a "budget" oriented price point with very low emissions.
Well aren't you fancy!I do not like the look of any of the stoves you guys are talking about IS, AS or this new bk box. All wpuld not pass the look test for my family room.
I would never settle to pay less for something I have to look at every day, operational or not.
I dont mind the look of the new stove at all. It is not great looking no but it is not bad either from what I can see. I am not a big fan of the IS but it looks a lot better than the princess or king.Well aren't you fancy!
All the buzz lately has been about the AS though, that's where I was going.
Really? Buzz? Woodstock has mostly gone away from this forum except for woody. The AS is the tiny one right? IS is like 3.2 CF and inside parts melt? short cat life?
Ha! kick the hornets nest.
We have had a whole lot of threads about problems with bks this year to just to kick another nest lol.
The number of BK units out there far outweigh the Woodstocks. I'd be curious to know the numbers, I'd bet 30-40 to 1. It's not surprising that some end up on hearth looking for help.We have had a whole lot of threads about problems with bks this year to just to kick another nest lol.
I was unaware of the failures. Except for the premature cat failures that Woodstocks in general experience. (Which somehow rarely get mentioned online)Really? Buzz? Woodstock has mostly gone away from this forum except for woody. The AS is the tiny one right? IS is like 3.2 CF and inside parts melt? short cat life?
Ha! kick the hornets nest.
All the buzz lately has been about the AS though, that's where I was going.
Right on par! Low emissions and low efficiency...That AS is shamefully ugly, small, and inefficient at just 77%. Woodstock can do better. What that stove does well is low emissions, just 0.5 gph!
I know most of the problems were not the stoves fault necessarily. I just had to be a pita a little. We have 2 customers who are really happy with their woodstock hybrids and have had no real issues.Yes we have. Although I can't say the "problems" were always BK problems.
I was unaware of the failures. Except for the premature cat failures that Woodstocks in general experience. (Which somehow rarely get mentioned online)
Sounds just like my Cape Cod!
:::Self-destruct mode initializing::::
Me too. I like the tall AS, I wish more stoves offered tall legs. I don't find it to be too ugly. It's different, but I like it ok.The cat failures mentioned online at that other woodstove forum sound very similar to my experience. Real, full time, 24/7, burners are getting two years. The cat prices have gone way up on them too which used to be a strong point for the Woodstocks. At the same time the BK cats have gotten cheaper, so we're about even on life and cost. The IS is melting some internal parts that while embarrassing, the parts are easily replaced without welding or serious disassembly. I'd still like to try one someday.
As are the princess and the king.That AS is shamefully ugly,
I disagree. Maybe ugly to some. But not shamefully ugly.. that title belongs to US stove and Breckwell.As are the princess and the king.
I do not like the look of any of the stoves you guys are talking about IS, AS or this new bk box. All wpuld not pass the look test for my family room.
I would never settle to pay less for something I have to look at every day, operational or not.
The US Stove company does not win any awards for looks, but I heated my home with a Wonderwood for 7 years as the only source of heat. I don't care how little glass you have or how brown the color is; when it is 9 degrees outside and the stove is keeping the house at 72 it looks mighty fine to me.I disagree. Maybe ugly to some. But not shamefully ugly.. that title belongs to US stove and Breckwell.
They don't win any awards for looks or performance.The US Stove company does not win any awards for looks, but I heated my home with a Wonderwood for 7 years as the only source of heat. I don't care how little glass you have or how brown the color is; when it is 9 degrees outside and the stove is keeping the house at 72 it looks mighty fine to me.
Did you have a place for a freestander? I assumed you have an insert out of necessity. They can produce this unit cheaper because all the testing was done with the insert, it shares the same firebox. Bringing it to market is much cheaper because of that. Typically manufacturers do not pass that savings on to the customer though, BK saw a need and are trying to fill that need as cheap as possible.Cheaper than my insert and it comes with more steel, go figure.
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