Muffler mod - 036

[Ashful]

Bigger dawg are slower!

Educate me, Jay! I figure any dogs on a saw this small is probably not too sensible, since it doesn't really have the kind of power required to pivot on the dogs when cutting, but I'm looking for a quick way to shorten my bar, without dropping coin on all new chains and a bar. Maybe I've got my head up my arse, though.

 

[MasterMech]

You could always get the bar and cut your existing chains down to size.

 

[smokinj]

20 still fine just need smaller rounds....DAWGS do nothing. Of. Shorting the bar its still the same length. You just lose workable space.

 

[Ashful]

My figuring is that when I bury the nose, I'll have less chain in the log, but probably only 1" difference with small vs big dogs.

I'll pick up an 18" B&C, to feel the difference, and decide which I like. I can always sell the other on eBay. I'll have to see what my shop charges for shortening a bunch of chains, and decide if its worth it!

 

[smokinj]

My figuring is that when I bury the nose, I'll have less chain in the log, but probably only 1" difference with small vs big dogs.

I'll pick up an 18" B&C, to feel the difference, and decide which I like. I can always sell the other on eBay. I'll have to see what my shop charges for shortening a bunch of chains, and decide if its worth it!

18 is not worth it. Look at 16 and your going to have a strong saw. That's how I ran my 361 and once your out of bar move up to the bigger saw.

 

[MasterMech]

18 is not worth it. Look at 16 and your going to have a strong saw. That's how I ran my 361 and once your out of bar move up to the bigger saw.

I currently have a 16" on my 034. I know it will run the 20 just fine but I really like that little bar on there!

Joful, I imagine that burying the nose makes more difference than the 2" of straight bar. Straight 2 inches is what, 2 cutters? Probably at least 2x that in play going around the nose.

 

[smokinj]

I currently have a 16" on my 034. I know it will run the 20 just fine but I really like that little bar on there!

Joful, I imagine that burying the nose makes more difference than the 2" of straight bar. Straight 2 inches is what, 2 cutters? Probably at least 2x that in play going around the nose.

Hes used to saw chips flying to me the only way to make a 60cc saw kick @ss like an 064 would be a 16inch. Makes that saw a blast to run. I got rid of mine to roll with the 192t its just a lot light and the micro chain make it a no brainer for me. I just trying to get my 460 into the action as quick as possible.

 

[Ashful]

Good idea! I should step my T435 down to 12" (it came with 14"), the 036 to 16", and the 064 at 28"!

 

[smokinj]

Good idea! I should step my T435 down to 12" (it came with 14"), the 036 to 16", and the 064 at 28"!

I like your thinking! The right size wood drop your 064 to that 20inch and you will have a set-up for pure grunt!

 

[Bocefus78]

I like my 12" on my 192t. It keeps you from trying to cut stuff that the 361 should be into.

 

[smokinj]

I like my 12" on my 192t. It keeps you from trying to cut stuff that the 361 should be into.

I am kind of the other side. I like the 14 inch and skip the 361 all together, but a couple 036,360,361,362 on a crew never hurt anything. I just prefer either using the very lightest saw or having the extra horse power of the big saw. I do run a 20,28,32 on the 460 though.

 

[Ashful]

I like your thinking! The right size wood drop your 064 to that 20inch and you will have a set-up for pure grunt!

No need to go 20" on that saw! That 064 maintains full chain speed on the 28" bar with the nose buried and me leaning on it pretty hard.

 

[MasterMech]

No need to go 20" on that saw! That 064 maintains full chain speed on the 28" bar with the nose buried and me leaning on it pretty hard.

Sounds like it needs more cowbell. Err, sprocket that is!

 

[ScotO]

Sounds like it needs more cowbell. Err, sprocket that is!

Yeah, maybe one like this!! :D

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?index=0&sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=290529417597

 

[Ashful]

No way, guys... I ain't touching that 064! It's the only one I own that I'm truly happy with, right now.

I'd be more likely to go the other way, and put a smaller sprocket on the 036.

 

[smokinj]

No need to go 20" on that saw! That 064 maintains full chain speed on the 28" bar with the nose buried and me leaning on it pretty hard.

Its just easier to swing a 20 in tighter spaces. Just depends on the job. 460 with a 20 inch bar and full comp its rooster tails and great bedding for the chix's...

 

[ScotO]

Hey while we are on the subject of saws, I just picked up an 046 for 60 clams.......

It needs a P/C and a rear handle/tank assy, but it'll make a good winter.project.....

 

[smokinj]

Hey while we are on the subject of saws, I just picked up an 046 for 60 clams.......

It needs a P/C and a rear handle/tank assy, but it'll make a good winter.project.....

Now you have room for 700 in parts......

 

[clemsonfor]

and another tangent.

A logger i know, i asked about old saws. He said he had some 372's i was asking about old saws. I think he will give them to me. I was thinking of getting them and rebuilding at least one. I think they may need P/C but did not ask the details of why they are now junk/parts saws.

 

[smokinj]

and another tangent.

A logger i know, i asked about old saws. He said he had some 372's i was asking about old saws. I think he will give them to me. I was thinking of getting them and rebuilding at least one. I think they may need P/C but did not ask the details of why they are now junk/parts saws.

Logger's just wear out a 70 cc saw very quick. 90cc where they need to be.

 

[DexterDay]

Ive got a $100 bill in my pocket right now if you wanted to get rid of one (seriously)

and another tangent.

A logger i know, i asked about old saws. He said he had some 372's i was asking about old saws. I think he will give them to me. I was thinking of getting them and rebuilding at least one. I think they may need P/C but did not ask the details of why they are now junk/parts saws.

 

[clemsonfor]

Logger's just wear out a 70 cc saw very quick. 90cc where they need to be.

Not really around here. They mostly cut pine and a 30" butt is pretty large. 28"s inside bark is really the limits of most mills around here. They mostly trimm to length or trim trucks with the saws.

 

[smokinj]

Not really around here. They mostly cut pine and a 30" butt is pretty large. 28"s inside bark is really the limits of most mills around here. They mostly trimm to length or trim trucks with the saws.

Guess I always have my head around our timber. Its big and hardwood and private own land. There's a lot of cuts to just one tree. Most logging truck are full with 3 trees.

 

[mikefrommaine]

Ive got a $100 bill in my pocket right now if you wanted to get rid of one (seriously)

I've got a $100 bill and a George Washington.

 

[smokinj]

I've got a $100 bill and a George Washington.

I will double down with 2 yards!