Loud bang from the 30 just now.
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Seanm
Minister of Fire
I heard what I thought was something like this a couple of weeks ago. I woke up around 230 in the morning to hear the end of what I thought was a loud crack like noise and heard a metal ringing sound. It woke my wife up who is hearing impaired and woke my son as well. I came downstairs and the stove looked normal with nothing out of the ordinary..... Im interested to hear what others have to say.
Heard a loud bang in the Mag one night last winter woke everyone up but is far as i know no damage was done.
My stove use to make a pronounced ticking noise when it started to get very hot and the metal expanded. Did that for the whole first season and into the next, then one day when I was sitting with a friend in the same room with the stove, the stove had a good fire going and it was getting particularly hot and was ticking along pretty good when we heard (and felt) a loud bang. A weld obviously gave or released somewhere on the left side, and it was so violent that there was even some dust in the air from the "explosion", like I had hit the stove with a hammer or something. I was up and inspecting the stove within a couple seconds, but I couldn't see or find anything wrong, except the ticking noise immediately stopped and it never happened again.
My guess was that it was one of the welds somewhere on the heat shield on the left side, It has never changed or effected the stove performance, but the stove is a lot quieter now when when it gets hot.
My guess was that it was one of the welds somewhere on the heat shield on the left side, It has never changed or effected the stove performance, but the stove is a lot quieter now when when it gets hot.
Mitch Newton
Burning Hunk
For some reason my stove seems to be running 50-100 degrees hotter than normal. Which still puts the stove top in the 475-525 range which is fine. However, was watching a medium burn the other night and heard a loud pop/bang. It did not change anything in the burn or subsequent burns though.
My first thought was possible large off gassing build up and exploded but if I am not mistaken you said it was later or at the end of a burn cycle so that would almost eliminate that option. With the explanation that Lumberjack gave I am now thinking there may have been a small weld bead that was out of place and it gave way. This could happen somewhat easily in the fab process where a bead of weld is holding at a corner or edge but did not get real good penetration. After many hot/cold flexing of the stove it finally gives way but has no effect on the intergrity of the stove itself.
If that does not make sense I can try to explain it better but it would be easier to show what I am talking about in the fab shop.
Either way a good inspection and use of a straight edge to make sure the stove is not warped would be in order I think.
If that does not make sense I can try to explain it better but it would be easier to show what I am talking about in the fab shop.
Either way a good inspection and use of a straight edge to make sure the stove is not warped would be in order I think.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
My new stove also makes a very loud bang during the warm-up cycle. I don't hear it every time, but with several 18" stone walls separating the house, I think you could miss a gun shot from one of the house if you were at the other. In any case, it scared the hell out of me the first few times... now I just use it as a thermometer.
Jotul: "Bang!"
Joful: "Time to go engage the catalyst."
Jotul: "Bang!"
Joful: "Time to go engage the catalyst."
It might be good to check your stove at various stages of heating by doing the dollar bill test on the legs. If at any point you can slip a dollar bill under any leg of the stove, it may need re-leveling or a shim under that leg.
My thought is one of two things - if the welds are intact.
1. It's possible that a large flat part of the stove steel, i.e. stove side or back, bowed out slightly due to heat and perhaps a log leaning against it or both. As the stove cooled, it snapped from a slight bubble to flat and that was the noise you heard. This could also have been the ash pan or rear heat shield.
2. One of your firebricks had some kind of defect or inclusion and the heat/cool thermal expansion/contraction caused it to break - either making the noise by itself or hitting the stove metal and causing the noise as it broke.
I'd call Englander and ask what they think it is. Who knows, they might say - we'll send you a new stove just in case!
BTW, so far so good with our Englander 30 this year. 95% of our burns are E/W, 3 medium size splits - plenty of heat, controlled burn and not much wasted firewood. If the temp dips, we got three options, N/S burn, crack the damper open a bit more or both - and we are toasty. I can see where if one had an open floor plan, this stove would heat a very large area easily when cranked-up.
Good luck,
Bill
1. It's possible that a large flat part of the stove steel, i.e. stove side or back, bowed out slightly due to heat and perhaps a log leaning against it or both. As the stove cooled, it snapped from a slight bubble to flat and that was the noise you heard. This could also have been the ash pan or rear heat shield.
2. One of your firebricks had some kind of defect or inclusion and the heat/cool thermal expansion/contraction caused it to break - either making the noise by itself or hitting the stove metal and causing the noise as it broke.
I'd call Englander and ask what they think it is. Who knows, they might say - we'll send you a new stove just in case!
BTW, so far so good with our Englander 30 this year. 95% of our burns are E/W, 3 medium size splits - plenty of heat, controlled burn and not much wasted firewood. If the temp dips, we got three options, N/S burn, crack the damper open a bit more or both - and we are toasty. I can see where if one had an open floor plan, this stove would heat a very large area easily when cranked-up.
Good luck,
Bill
Ashful
Minister of Fire
Not sure if that was directed at BAR or me, but in my case, the stove that's actually sitting on all four legs is the one that bangs! Seems to be at the flue collar, and there are all gasketed joints (no cemented joints) in that vicinity.
My old Jotul sits on three legs, as it's set on a very rough stone hearth, and that one never bangs!
I keep forgetting to break out the level before a reload. But, the stove is not acting any differently. Same temps, burns the same, air controls effect the burn/temps the same. No different. I just wish I knew what it was.
I think I will call Englander and see what they have to say. Come spring, if it is still a mystery, I will clean out the firebox, remove the firebrick, and check the stove out more closely.
I think I will call Englander and see what they have to say. Come spring, if it is still a mystery, I will clean out the firebox, remove the firebrick, and check the stove out more closely.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
You mean on you, or the stove? I near nose oils can stain the Englander black finish.
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