What a mess - figuratively and literally.We certainly can't keep kicking the can down the road, then blaming 3d world countries for the problem.
https://mic.com/articles/191793/now...-is-in-the-midst-of-a-trash-crisis#.vmdThb5nW
What a mess - figuratively and literally.We certainly can't keep kicking the can down the road, then blaming 3d world countries for the problem.
https://mic.com/articles/191793/now...-is-in-the-midst-of-a-trash-crisis#.vmdThb5nW
Germany started an interesting practice about 25 years ago, in that all manufacturers were made liable to take back all products and packaging they manufacture, disassemble, recycle, or re-use them. It was over the top, and manufacturers truly didn’t know how to handle this (was Mercedes to take back 25 year old cars, disassemble them, and somehow re-use the materials?), but it shows a line of thinking that I like.The answer will ultimately come from Packaging Engineers, who will make it financially advantageous for companies to make environmental friendly packaging. Better to lead a horse than to prod it.
Same result as a tax or surcharge or deposit. Levying a tax on Mfg for single use non biodegradable products they produce will quicky lead to that same Mfg finding a way to make it biodegradable or at least easily recycled. The old adage applies:Whenever you tax something you get less of it ,subsidize it, you get more.If the costs of managing the waste from packaging were somehow placed back onto manufacturers (or importers) of these products, you would see a revolution in packaging design. Yes, the cost is ultimately passed on to the consumer, but by incentivizing manufacturers to reduce that overall cost (to remain competitive), the overall costs (and waste) would be lowered.
Same result as a tax or surcharge or deposit. Levying a tax on Mfg for single use non biodegradable products they produce will quicky lead to that same Mfg finding a way to make it biodegradable or at least easily recycled. The old adage applies:Whenever you tax something you get less of it ,subsidize it, you get more.
Germany took a strategic, leadership role in cradle to cradle concept that has dramatically reduced waste in the country. Since 1996 the country has reduced total net waste by 37 million tons. This is a thorough program that had different phases for different industries. It didn't apply to past manufacturing only future production. Manufacturers were given time to tool up. They were required to design with waste avoidance, waste recovery and environmentally compatible disposal in mind. It's been quite successful in segwaying the country to a more circular economy. The seed for this started with the EPEA program between 1987 and 1992 which developed a concept called: “Intelligent Product System” for transforming the linear economy into an economically and environmentally sustainable system of intelligent products.Germany started an interesting practice about 25 years ago, in that all manufacturers were made liable to take back all products and packaging they manufacture, disassemble, recycle, or re-use them. It was over the top, and manufacturers truly didn’t know how to handle this (was Mercedes to take back 25 year old cars, disassemble them, and somehow re-use the materials?), but it shows a line of thinking that I like.
If the costs of managing the waste from packaging were somehow placed back onto manufacturers (or importers) of these products, you would see a revolution in packaging design. Yes, the cost is ultimately passed on to the consumer, but by incentivizing manufacturers to reduce that overall cost (to remain competitive), the overall costs (and waste) would be lowered.
Imagine this being your home where your kids play.I would love to see plastic grocery bags outlawed. We were on vacation last year in the FL Keys, and we were behind a garbage truck that was overloaded, and plastic bags were popping up and blowing all over. You know they'll find the water and stay there for the next 500 years. Nothing wrong with good ol paper.
outstanding comments by the folks here, your gov't responds with action directly relating to the thread and ZERO,ZERO COMMENTS? unless I've missed it no other person here has mentioned the bill when it was moving thru? what is up !here this reminds me when webby sold out and nobody saw it? speakin of the webmeister, last seen may 2017, howse he doin?not much fanfare!https://www.usatoday.com/videos/new...s-bill-aimed-reducing-sea-pollution/38125451/
from the Anchorage Daily, $10mil/5 yrs. quote from the article and link.
"Speaking with reporters after the signing, Sullivan said much of the waste comes from a handful of Asian nations, including China, Vietnam, and the Philippines. The countries lack proper controls, and waste is bulldozed into rivers that carry it to oceans. More than 8 million tons of plastic trash is dumped into oceans globally." pretty convenient ?https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/env...ska-lawmakers-praised-by-trump-cleanup-group/
no politics intended here, never mentioned the administration, you did!. I did mention Government. it is a very small move made by unanimous consent without amendments. here a link for those that may be interested. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/756Stop trying to politicize the thread. One act does not indicate a general trend. There is a long list of industry appointees by the current administration that are completely reversing environmental controls in favor of industry.
Obviously, because people want them.8 years were given to ban plastic bags and it didn't happen, wonder why. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
meanwhile else where, 3000 families live in a 200 acre Jakarta dump? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-landfill_us_5b9fcc13e4b013b0977d47ce.article claims pickers earn Indonesia min. wage!
Plastic certainly is everywhere.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-human-poop-pilot-study-ueg-week/1736745002/
Yes iv got one of those and the filter sure isnt paper. Also lots of nasty things water treatrment plants DONT take out of municipal water supplies when sourcing it from rivers like drugs and now micro plastics.Really makes you wonder about the spun plastic fiber whole-house or local-use water filters that so many have installed in their homes, today.
Obviously, because people want them.
What US company is dumping plastic in the ocean?
I have a 5 stage RO system for just drinking water. Love it.Really makes you wonder about the spun plastic fiber whole-house or local-use water filters that so many have installed in their homes, today.
Yes...and as we discussed earlier in this thread...it's not caused by the US. Thus, banning bags in the US isn't going to solve the issue of a growing mass of plastic in the ocean.No one CEO is standing there throwing plastic into the ocean, it just finds its way there, haven't you seen the giant plastic patch in the ocean. Google it.
All countries are responsible for this issue. And it's not just in the oceans but the rivers that feed them. Recently testing found some rivers in England that exceeded previous high levels of microplastic measurements in Korea. There are lots of causes, not just plastic bags. Washing polyester and fleece clothing puts lots of fibers into the environment. Like it or not, this is ubiquitous now and showing up in us.Yes...and as we discussed earlier in this thread...it's not caused by the US. Thus, banning bags in the US isn't going to solve the issue of a growing mass of plastic in the ocean.
It would only stop the occasional bag from a careless citizen/municipality.
When we talk about banning something as incredibly useful as a plastic bag. Let's have some evidence to bring the table before we just start banning stuff and hoping we see a change in the environment.All countries are responsible for this issue. And it's not just in the oceans but the rivers that feed them. Recently testing found some rivers in England that exceeded previous high levels of microplastic measurements in Korea. There are lots of causes, not just plastic bags. Washing polyester and fleece clothing puts lots of fibers into the environment. Like it or not, this is ubiquitous now and showing up in us.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science...-worst-recorded-microplastic-pollution-world/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/10/22/659568662/microplastics-are-turning-up-everywhere-even-in-human-excrement
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