Help with new Enviro P3 stove

[Powergirl]

Is there a liner in the wood stove pipe? And is it 6 or 8 inch? Whenever you go into a 6 inch pipe the pellet pipe has to be 4 inch. If it's an 8 inch pipe it has to have a liner. This gets worse by the day. Did you have this inspected?

Yes there is a liner in the woodstove pipe it is 8 inch pipe we had it installed professionally so they could give us a proper WETT inspection for our insurance


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[Mt Bob]

OK.Your stove is the "upgraded" enviro mini stove.They had many problems,with burning poorly,on low settings,there were up grades,fixed lots of stuff.Your stove is supposed to have all this fixed.But,the early ones had some problems with the control boards.The stove design is good,the burn pot is ok,proven,you should be able to burn it(even a crappy burn) for 2 days without shutting it down,to service the pot,but you can always scrape pot,a bit,while still running.Even with the improvements,on this stove,you need almost perfect airflow,the flue and combustion air.We have seen your dealer has failed you terribly,and we feel for you,as you purchased a top of the line unit.In reality,you could have bought a 900 dollar castle serenity stove,from the farm store,paid a stove shop to install it,and had less problems,and,almost immediate help,on the phone,from the importer.As I fix stoves,part time,I am very disgusted with Enviro having such a poor dealer.I like their products,but I own a Harman,and an Austroflamm.If your new stove was an Harman Accentra,you would not be on this forum,except to say how easy it is to just dump in a bag and turn the knob.Heck,my 94 Austroflamm is a better stove,right now than what you possess,because it would work there.OK see you are posting new stuff,sorry for ranting,having a beer,watching it snow here.

 

[Powergirl]

45 feet?[/

From where the stove pipe comes out at the bottom of the stove to the very top of the pipe where the woodstove pipe was it is 7 feet then there is an additional 10 feet up to the actual roof and then there’s about 4 to5 feet out of the roof the rest of the chimney

About 21


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[Powergirl]

OK.Your stove is the "upgraded" enviro mini stove.They had many problems,with burning poorly,on low settings,there were up grades,fixed lots of stuff.Your stove is supposed to have all this fixed.But,the early ones had some problems with the control boards.The stove design is good,the burn pot is ok,proven,you should be able to burn it(even a crappy burn) for 2 days without shutting it down,to service the pot,but you can always scrape pot,a bit,while still running.Even with the improvements,on this stove,you need almost perfect airflow,the flue and combustion air.We have seen your dealer has failed you terribly,and we feel for you,as you purchased a top of the line unit.In reality,you could have bought a 900 dollar castle serenity stove,from the farm store,paid a stove shop to install it,and had less problems,and,almost immediate help,on the phone,from the importer.As I fix stoves,part time,I am very disgusted with Enviro having such a poor dealer.I like their products,but I own a Harman,and an Austroflamm.If your new stove was an Harman Accentra,you would not be on this forum,except to say how easy it is to just dump in a bag and turn the knob.Heck,my 94 Austroflamm is a better stove,right now than what you possess,because it would work there.OK see you are posting new stuff,sorry for ranting,having a beer,watching it snow here.

Unfortunately they are the only dealer up in enviro here in town.

My husband is to the point where he just wants the stove removed I personally just want to put a wood stove back in

I will be stopping by their store tomorrow and talking in person with them and then if I have to I guess talk to and Enviro
unless they want to take the stove back and give me my money back

This is a long time a well-known company in our town


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[JRemington]

I have no idea what your codes are but Enviro will tell you that you can't run a 3 inch pipe into a 6 for that distance. So would the NFI manual. Your going to have a draft issue no matter what you do. Did you mean 45 feet or inches?

 

[Powergirl]

I have no idea what your codes are but Enviro will tell you that you can't run a 3 inch pipe into a 6 for that distance. So would the NFI manual. Your going to have a draft issue no matter what you do. Did you mean 45 feet or inches?

4 to 5.

From where it leaves the building it is about 4 feet so it extends through the roof up into the air about 4 feet with a From the old woodstove the first level of the roof it extends up about 10 feet through the building and then from the bottom of the stove to the actual old woodstove pipe it is about 7 feet so in total about 21 feet from the bottom of the stove to the very top of the cap


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[Powergirl]

4 to 5.

From where it leaves the building it is about 4 feet so it extends through the roof up into the air about 4 feet with a From the old woodstove the first level of the roof it extends up about 10 feet through the building and then from the bottom of the stove to the actual old woodstove pipe it is about 7 feet so in total about 21 feet from the bottom of the stove to the very top of the cap


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So for the burn pot position should I be looking at picture one where the little nipples fit in the holes. Or picture to where it’s back a bit and the pipes don’t really go into the burn pot



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[Mt Bob]

Ya,you have been mistreated.I do not think anything they could do would make it proper,in your mind.Old,reputable,etc means nothing when they do not provide the service.It is a shame,as pellet burning is environmentally friendly,and usually cheaper.Sorry for bad experience,hope you report it to the manufacturer.

 

[JRemington]

The bottom picture

 

[Powergirl]

Ya,you have been mistreated.I do not think anything they could do would make it proper,in your mind.Old,reputable,etc means nothing when they do not provide the service.It is a shame,as pellet burning is environmentally friendly,and usually cheaper.Sorry for bad experience,hope you report it to the manufacturer.

You guys are all super awesome I so appreciate your feedback


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[Powergirl]

The bottom picture

Thank you we will try the stove again tomorrow we still have had the item into far if that is the case

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[JRemington]

The igniter and air tube should only barely come through the pot.

 

[Powergirl]

The igniter and air tube should only barely come through the pot.

Thx. We are wetrying again. I wanted to wait till tomorrow but the husband said no we’re going to try it tonight. Tomorrow I will visit the dealer and discuss with him and then contact the manufacturer. And I do like the stove it’s cute, it goes with the cabin.




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[Mt Bob]

Thank you we will try the stove again tomorrow we still have had the item into far if that is the caseView attachment 216741




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I cannot see the bottom,in that pic,BUT,you already were told,and tried,put the burn pot dimples into the groves/holes,and it only prolonged the pot overflow,but good luck,I never would own a piece of equipment that would be that poorly build,and your stove is not.

 

[Mt Bob]

Thx. We are wetrying again. I wanted to wait till tomorrow but the husband said no we’re going to try it tonight. Tomorrow I will visit the dealer and discuss with him and then contact the manufacturer. And I do like the stove it’s cute, it goes with the cabin.




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Take a .45 cal with you,tell him he is coming home with you---oh wait you are not in montana,sorry,,LOL

 

[Powergirl]

Take a .45 cal with you,tell him he is coming home with you---oh wait you are not in montana,sorry,,LOL

No. Going to take my 45 70.

The husband said this is the first time the burnt pot actually sort of fell into the holes before it was resting on top so hopefully fingers crossed we have better luck


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[Mt Bob]

OK back to the other pellet stove site,got to answer some questions over there

 

[Ssyko]

Two 45's and bump to a 4" through the wood stove pipe to the top wouldn't that help the draft? mine is only 12 foot and run the 3" right up the old fireplace pipe. anchored at top and bottom hold pipe centered.

 

[JRemington]

How can you manage more than one site lol?

Ok. So question. Just with where the burnt pot should fit we had it pushed into far cause we wanted it to be tight not knowing any better. Then someone said hey you need to have a fit in these little holes but it still didn’t fit right so here are two pictures which one is right the one where is fitting in the holes or one where it’s really truly back and there’s only a teeny bit of the pike showingView attachment 216734View attachment 216735


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There it was a woodstove in there for about 25 years. The actual rest of the pipe was the old woodstove pipe it goes up about

From the end of the pipe from the pellet stove it goes up about 12 feet using the old woodstove pipe


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OK back to the other pellet stove site,got to answer some questions over there

 

[JRemington]

That would be much better.

 

[Ssyko]

No. Going to take my 45 70.

NOW SHE'S ON TO SOMTHING. Me and my ball peen hammer have been there done that

 

[Powergirl]

How can you manage more than one site lol?

I cannot seem to post a video unless anyone can tell me how to do that the picture doesn’t really kind of show how the fire is



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[Mt Bob]

How can you manage more than one site lol?

Been an automotive mechanic all my life,multitasking is how to make money

 

[Powergirl]

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I cannot seem to post a video unless anyone can tell me how to do that the picture doesn’t really kind of show how the fire is



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The fire never seems to be lazy and unlevel to it goes right up to the top of the inside of the stove but is done that in the past I guess we will see what happens when I come out tomorrow morning


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[Ssyko]

How can you manage more than one site lol?

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