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Are you not seeing how many people are dying in NYC?
Watching that from 500 miles away. There is a reason I live in a rural area. This is what happens when travel is unrestricted and people don’t listen and follow recommendations until it’s too late. Top that off with I have no clue about the actual facts of anything going on there.

the point of my post is they are not testing enough to have any concrete numbers on anything. Everywhere is seeing deaths from this. I have given my opinion that this will be bad in populated areas Of the country. If every case in the US was in New York only 1.5% of the population of the state of New York would be infected by current testing. Some of y’all are acting like we’ve reached this point of no return towards extinction.
 
Watching that from 500 miles away. There is a reason I live in a rural area. This is what happens when travel is unrestricted and people don’t listen and follow recommendations until it’s too late. Top that off with I have no clue about the actual facts of anything going on there.

the point of my post is they are not testing enough to have any concrete numbers on anything. Everywhere is seeing deaths from this. I have given my opinion that this will be bad in populated areas Of the country. If every case in the US was in New York only 1.5% of the population of the state of New York would be infected by current testing. Some of y’all are acting like we’ve reached this point of no return towards extinction.
No, I'm saying that more people will die from this virus than US Soldiers that died in Vietnam. NYC is simply a preview of what your town or county will be like, especially if folks don't stay they asses inside.
 
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No, I'm saying that more people will die from this virus than US Soldiers that died in Vietnam. NYC is simply a preview of what your town or county will be like, especially if folks don't stay they asses inside.
I live in a rural area. We have 3 cases out of 67,000 people in the county. I highly doubt we will se anything on the magnitude of New York. Where the population density is over 100 times greater.

You do realize more people die yearly from the flu than the Vietnam War? Been that way for well over a decade.
 
I live in a rural area. We have 3 cases out of 67,000 people in the county. I highly doubt we will se anything on the magnitude of New York. Where the population density is over 100 times greater.

You do realize more people die yearly from the flu than the Vietnam War? Been that way for well over a decade.
You only have 3 cases because there is no testing in rural areas. My county only has 1 case, but there are also a very limited number of tests here in one of the least populous places in the country. And no, the flu does not kill 60,000 Americans every year. This disease is killing thousands of people every day, on top of all of the flu and other deaths Americans already deal with. Please, stop acting like this is no big deal.
 
Let me correct that. Over 27000 times greater population density. Ours is less than 1 per sq mile.
And our county with a very similar population density currently has 30 cases. And I gaurantee that will go up for a while. Today 2 of our rural mail carriers tested positive one stating to show symptoms.
 
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You only have 3 cases because there is no testing in rural areas. My county only has 1 case, but there are also a very limited number of tests here in one of the least populous places in the country. And no, the flu does not kill 60,000 Americans every year. This disease is killing thousands of people every day, on top of all of the flu and other deaths Americans already deal with. Please, stop acting like this is no big deal.
Actually they have tested a higher percentage of the population than they have tested in New York based on CDC numbers.

I do not think this is as big a deal as it has been portrayed to be. That doesn’t mean I don’t respect it as a medical professional. I’ve had multiple massive strokes, did a surgical airway on a head trauma pt and treated and transported a STEMI in the last three shifts. Two of those pts died and our jobs go on.
 
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And our county with a very similar population density currently has 30 cases. And I gaurantee that will go up for a while. Today 2 of our rural mail carriers tested positive one stating to show symptoms.
Where at in Pennsylvania? According to census data the highest density is 2900 per sq/mi. NYC is 27.000. Nowhere close.
 
Where at in Pennsylvania? According to census data the highest density is 2900 per sq/mi. NYC is 27.000. Nowhere close.
The same density as your area not NYC. I am making the point that rural areas are still at risk.
 
The same density as your area not NYC. I am making the point that rural areas are still at risk.
Dr. Fouci has straight up said that same thing. Assume it is everywhere and deadly, because it is. If you see death regularly than it will be easier to be blase about this, but it is very serious.
 
Dr. Fouci has straight up said that same thing. Assume it is everywhere and deadly, because it is. If you see death regularly than it will be easier to be blase about this, but it is very serious.
There is another name that drives me nuts. Dr. Fauci has spent an entire career on AIDS research and all of a sudden he’s the go to expert?

he’s a classic example of plot IVs mixing into this.
 
When has the flu ever packed hospitals to the brim in a matter of weeks world wide? Comparing C-19 to the flu is not apples to apples.
Society has not taken these type of measures in a long time, if we don't, the countryside small towns are not immune to the virus. "We are all in this together" what part are people not understanding?
 
There is another name that drives me nuts. Dr. Fucky has spent an entire career on AIDS research and all of a sudden he’s the go to expert?

he’s a classic example of plot IVs mixing into this.

Literally nobody is the expert on this virus, it's novel! He knows way more about viruses than you or I, and so far seems to be leading the research into this particular coronavirus here in the US.
 
When has the flu ever packed hospitals to the brim in a matter of weeks world wide? Comparing C-19 to the flu is not apples to apples.
Society has not taken these type of measures in a long time, if we don't, the countryside small towns are not immune to the virus. "We are all in this together" what part are people not understanding?
You are spot on. The small rural towns will be devastated if we don't all stay indoors. My county is just under 13 persons per square mile, which sounds like everyone is super spread out, but every single person in this county goes to the same grocery store, gas stations, feed stores, etc. Once one person gets it, almost everyone will get it. We might not leave our house until May.
 
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There is another name that drives me nuts. Dr. Fauci has spent an entire career on AIDS research and all of a sudden he’s the go to expert?

he’s a classic example of plot IVs mixing into this.
You do realize he has been the head of the national institute of allergy and infections disease since 1984 right? What he is saying is not just his views. He is the director of a large organization full of many of the leading researchers in the country.
 
When has the flu ever packed hospitals to the brim in a matter of weeks world wide? Comparing C-19 to the flu is not apples to apples.
Society has not taken these type of measures in a long time, if we don't, the countryside small towns are not immune to the virus. "We are all in this together" what part are people not understanding?
ALL. THE. TIME.

Those of us that work in healthcare n attest hospitals this time of the year are full of flu pts. Not to mention there have been, according to the Indiana State Department of Health, 26 major flu outbreaks within nursing homes this year.
 
You do realize he has been the head of the national institute of allergy and infections disease since 1984 right? What he is saying is not just his views. He is the director of a large organization full of many of the leading researchers in the country.
And he is an expert on AIDS. politics. There are a lot of Infectious disease specialists that I have talked to that do not agree with him and his numbers.
 
And he is an expert on AIDS. politics. There are a lot of Infectious disease specialists that I have talked to that do not agree with him and his numbers.
Again, NYC has never had to open up morgue trailers for the dead from the flu. You can lead a horse to water, but it will just get coronavirus anyway.
 
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ALL. THE. TIME.

Those of us that work in healthcare n attest hospitals this time of the year are full of flu pts. Not to mention there have been, according to the Indiana State Department of Health, 26 major flu outbreaks within nursing homes this year.
Nonsense. Are you saying we deploy military hospitals every year to handle the load. How often is the national guard deployed to help with a flu outbreak?
 
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And he is an expert on AIDS. politics. There are a lot of Infectious disease specialists that I have talked to that do not agree with him and his numbers.
They are not his numbers. They are the NIH numbers. Just because he doesn't blindly agree with the nonsense coming from the top doesn't mean he is playing politics. It means he is doing his job.
 
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Nonsense. Are you saying we deploy military hospitals every year to handle the load. How often is the national guard deployed to help with a flue outbreak?
No, but the hospitals are put to capacity every year from the flu. Just like right now the flu had them at capacity before this. That’s a big part of the strain. They were full before this.
 
What can I say I pay attention to everything in healthcare since my job revolves around it.
Yet you dismiss the guidance from the leading medical researchers.
 
Yet you dismiss the guidance from the leading medical researchers.
Where have you seen it have I said I’m dismissing guidance. Anyone else here dealing with patients in a daily basis. We just worked a cardiac arrest on a pt that is probable, we took every precaution since test results won’t be back till monday.

sorry for the delay, had to go take care of a 5 y/o not breathing. Our lives go on, many many more pts that are not COVID-19 then those even possible.