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[mellow]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/20/s...s-for-a-cleaner-burning-wood-stove.html?_r=1&

Have not found the final break downs yet.

 

[begreen]

I just heard back from John Ackerley. They hope to have a updated report later today. In the meantime visit their website for the latest. Tom of Woodstock generously turned over the grand prize money to hearth.com members Matt (nwwalker) and Jason with his Intensifire. That's a huge help to these guys that paid out of their pocket to travel and demonstrate their ideas and a class act by Tom Morrisey.

Here is a blog post on the final rankings:
http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/2013/11/ranking-of-stoves-at-wood-stove.html

Kudos to U of MD for the lowest emissions stove. And to Wittus for creating the most efficient stove tested.

 

[mellow]

Here is a blog post on the final rankings:
http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/2013/11/ranking-of-stoves-at-wood-stove.html

Not sure that is final, it says "As of 4:00 PM Sunday 11/17" above it unless that was the last test used?

 

[begreen]

John said he hopes to have an update out later today that lists the final results.

 

[Tenn Dave]

I was going to get the PH next year but I'm going to hold off and see how this one ends up, if it fits into my FP I'd probably go with the new one.
My install will look like this one, in fact just eyeballing it looks almost exactly the same size as my FP, it's definitely with an inch or two.

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Wow, that picture is very handsome !!

 

[weatherguy]

Wow, that picture is very handsome !!

Yeah, I wasn't crazy about brown but it looks good in their set up, since mine's the same I'm considering brown if I get one. Anxious to see the final product of the steel hybrid.

 

[alforit]

I was going to get the PH next year but I'm going to hold off and see how this one ends up, if it fits into my FP I'd probably go with the new one.
My install will look like this one, in fact just eyeballing it looks almost exactly the same size as my FP, it's definitely with an inch or two.

If your set up is as tight of clearance as this photo then the Steel Hybrid stove might not work...........Its minimum adjustable height is 31 inches. That's almost 3 inches taller than the PH.

 

[teutonicking]

Yeah, I wasn't crazy about brown but it looks good in their set up, since mine's the same I'm considering brown if I get one. Anxious to see the final product of the steel hybrid.

I have one in brown as well. I love the way it looks, particularly with the brownish bricks that I have in my chimney and hearth. But its obviously a personal preference issue.

 

[eclecticcottage]

I was told it will be less than $2,000, and they are trying to approach the $1500 mark. I replied that if they are able to sell their new stove for $1500, they will be competative price-wise with almost any stove on the market, and they should expect a lot of sales.

I agree 100% depending on the end design AND the requirements (clearances and hearthpad). I've filed away the info on the Sirocco as a good possibility if not much changes by the time we decide we want to replace the Republic, which hopefully won't be too soon, unless we really need the burn times for some reason. BUT that kind of pricing and knowing it's a quality company...I'll keep an eye out for a smaller version, since over 3 CU FT is just WAY too much stove for this place. I bet a 2 CU FT firebox with a comparable price range would be a great seller, for those of use heating smaller spaces.

 

[Oldhippie]

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I have one in brown as well. I love the way it looks, particularly with the brownish bricks that I have in my chimney and hearth. But its obviously a personal preference issue.

That is PURDY! I also like the charcoal against red brick too.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Tom of Woodstock generously turned over the grand prize money to hearth.com members Matt (nwwalker) and Jason with his Intensifire. That's a huge help to these guys that paid out of their pocket to travel and demonstrate their ideas and a class act by Tom Morrisey.

thats as classy an act as ive seen in ages! kudo's to tom and his bunch, congrats on the win! hearing what he did for those guys who paid outta pocket on a shoestring budget makes me an even bigger fan of his company , products and definately him

 

[begreen]

I don't know it they shared it all with them. But I did read that Woodstock bought Matt's rocket stove to take back with them and will be working with Matt on refining rocket stove tech. Pretty neat stuff.

 

[Jags]

Woodstock + Rocketstove = KOOOOL

 

[1750]

Good idea. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4se4LuRjX6g

How is the fire coming down like that? Very interesting.

 

[begreen]

Woodstock + Rocketstove = KOOOOL

Yes, speaking to Matt, all his stove lacked was thermal mass in the upper chamber. A serpentine channel of soapstone up there should make an interesting combo.

 

[weatherguy]

If your set up is as tight of clearance as this photo then the Steel Hybrid stove might not work...........Its minimum adjustable height is 31 inches. That's almost 3 inches taller than the PH.

That's what I was afraid of, I'll have to measure exact when the time comes, shrouds in the way now.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

I dunno...I've looked at the pics of it, even without the funky add ons it's really not that good looking of a stove to me. And it's not like I've got a fancy stove, just a big black square box, so I'm not too fussy about looks. At least make the door frame and the body the same color, or an option to have it the same!

Just saw the post above me, they won. I'll be interested in the numbers!

If it is just the black box you want, that is a possibility. This is one thing they have aimed for; each to his or her own. If you are not interested in color options or anything else, that is what you can get.

 

[weatherguy]

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I have one in brown as well. I love the way it looks, particularly with the brownish bricks that I have in my chimney and hearth. But its obviously a personal preference issue.

That's real nice teut, how many sf you heating with that baby? I saw a epa list of stove output and the PH was something like 13k btu - 73k btu, that's a lot of juice, my princess was something like 12k - 29 k

 

[Backwoods Savage]

We had to laugh Sunday when they tested the Ideal Steel. Such low numbers could not be accounted for so they would not accept them and blamed their equipment. Yet, we found it interesting that they took the same equipment to two other stoves and continued the testing. Woodstock was tested again later and as you can see, the numbers had to come out good to put them back on top.

I also agree: Tom Morrissey is one wonderful class act.

 

[BrotherBart]

We had to laugh Sunday when they tested the Ideal Steel. Such low numbers could not be accounted for so they would not accept them and blamed their equipment.

That happened on at least one test run of Jason's device in the old Treemont too.

 

[alforit]

We had to laugh Sunday when they tested the Ideal Steel. Such low numbers could not be accounted for so they would not accept them and blamed their equipment. Yet, we found it interesting that they took the same equipment to two other stoves and continued the testing. Woodstock was tested again later and as you can see, the numbers had to come out good to put them back on top.

I also agree: Tom Morrissey is one wonderful class act.

I am very impressed by this man...........What a selfless act he has done...........

 

[begreen]

If it is just the black box you want, that is a possibility. This is one thing they have aimed for; each to his or her own. If you are not interested in color options or anything else, that is what you can get.

They're going to spin off an all black version on their Solid Works system for me. After a close look I think the stove will look better stripped of all the bling and in monotone coloring. It will still have an industrial look, but that will be less prominent in monotone. This is what I would expect for the base $1500 model to look like.

 

[weatherguy]

They're going to spin off an all black version on their Solid Works system for me. After a close look I think the stove will look better stripped of all the bling and in monotone coloring. It will still have an industrial look, but that will be less prominent in monotone. This is what I would expect for the base $1500 model to look like.

Are you a beta tester? When you getting it BG?

 

[begreen]

No, I think that would be unlikely. I wouldn't mind testing the stove at all but my wife is pretty particular about the looks of a stove sitting in the living room. It's a visual focal point so looks are important to her. I might get away with testing it for a season, but I suspect that would only be if we hung on to the T6. But who knows? I'll show her the all black model and will let her be the judge.

 

[begreen]

More press. This time from the National Geographic Society.

Looks like Wittus and Lopi tied for second prize. They donated the $10K award back to the alliance for Green Heat. Well done folks. Here is further info from the article:

Winners for individual categories were HWAM (Danish) for innovation; Travis Industries for lowest carbon monoxide emissions and also for market appeal; (broken link removed) for affordability; the University of Maryland's Mulciber for lowest particulate emissions; and Woodstock Soapstone for efficiency.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/11/131120-wood-stove-decathlon-winners/

I love the comradery and helpfulness of all the companies. This was a good meet for everyone. I'm particularly happy for the Mulciber team. They approached stove design from a new angle and came up with an exceptionally clean burning design. An kudos to Jason for an affordable design to convert smoke dragons into clean burners.