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Lopi is coming out with a steel version of the Cape Cod Hybrid in a mid-sized ~2.2 cu ft stove. Should be a very interesting stove if it matches the Cape Cod's super low emissions. Expect to see some interesting new options on the market by the beginning of 2014.
Keep in mind these are prototypes. They have all these stoves at the HPBA show each year and many never make it the market for one reason or another. Lopi has had a small version of the cod in the works since the cape cod came out, it still hasn't made it out, even though its at the show. It is exciting to see all the new stuff though!
 
BG, great updates. Performance aside, the Union is an ugly monster. Boxy, cold and very industrial looking. The add ons are worse.
 
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BG, great updates. Performance aside, the Union is an ugly monster. Boxy, cold and very industrial looking. The add ons are worse.
Woodstock has always done a great job of blending form & function. For this new stove, it appears the emphasis is clearly on the function side of the equation. As far as the 'add ons' are concerned, I don't know what they are thinking.
 
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BG, great updates. Performance aside, the Union is an ugly monster. Boxy, cold and very industrial looking. The add ons are worse.
The add-ons are hideous. The legs are troubling. If the legs can be reworked, the core of the stove is a nice looking steel stove.
 
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By the decoration on top, I'm guessing this is the "fun model" of their prototypes that they brought to the show.
 
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Thanks for posting these updates. This is really interesting and it's fun to see the stoves with the mall in the background.

I'm not really getting the lady stove or the antlers. I'm assuming they've checked these options with their market, but... gah.
 
By the decoration on top, I'm guessing this is the "fun model" of their prototypes that they brought to the show.
Some manufacturers such as Blaze King have done a good job of marketing a great product which places function ahead of form. The new Woodstock 'core stove' I think looks fine, not as handsome as their other stoves, but it looks functiional. My big concern is that all the silly bling add ons will cause a lot of people to not take it serious as a potential state of the art heating piece of equipment. Perhaps I'm overreacting.
 
Some manufacturers such as Blaze King have done a good job of marketing a great product which places function ahead of form. The new Woodstock 'core stove' I think looks fine, not as handsome as their other stove, but it looks functiional. My big concern is that all the silly bling add ons will cause a lot of people to not take it serious as a potential state of the art heating piece of equipment. Perhaps I'm overreacting.

I don't think this event is meant to showcase the stove to the world is it? Aren't they just having some fun with the design / showing off the burning capabilities not the looks?
 
I don't think this event is meant to showcase the stove to the world is it? Aren't they just having some fun with the design / showing off the burning capabilities not the looks?
maybe.......I hope you're right. I'm probably overreacting. :-)
 
I don't think this event is meant to showcase the stove to the world is it? Aren't they just having some fun with the design / showing off the burning capabilities not the looks?

Pen: good question. However, looks are looks and first appearances leave an impression on our psyche and therefore our purchasing habits. Your right, the event is to test and inform the "burning public" of the latest stove technology. It is a matter of function over form, but function is sometimes difficult to get to if you can't stand what you're looking at.
 
The add-ons are hideous. The legs are troubling. If the legs can be reworked, the core of the stove is a nice looking steel stove.

I'd like to see the Union stove in all basic metallic black The contrasting color elements accentuate structure but the scheme can come off somewhat awkwardly. I'm not a fan at all of the gearhead direction, but some are evidently. That said, it appears to be an excellent performing stove. Hopefully they are just having fun with the new laser cutter and this will settle down into a simpler stove with options for those that want to gear it up. Note that this is designed as a radiant stove only. There is no blower option.
 
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Woodstock is holding first place for clean burning. The twin-fire for efficiency. I can tell you that you want to be careful where you place that stove. For a small stove it is hugely radiant.
More later.

Nice... I know a masonry hearth that it would be just perfect for... :)
 

The winner will be announced on Tuesday at 4pm, each of these days a team has a chance to test and get their numbers better. Most teams have come to this competition with preset settings so they will make micro changes, some of the other teams are using each day for testing and making huge changes that could vault them from last place to first place on their very last test. As I watch football and type this I can't but help see the same here, all it takes is a hail mary and that team that has no chance could take it all. From what I understand one stove is down already, not sure if it will come back online before the last day or not.
 
I will give my 2 cents on the woodstock, I was hoping I would fall in love with it once I saw it in person, can't say I did. If any stove captured my attention on looks alone it would be the Wittis, the fire show from that thing was awesome, very trippy seeing the flame go DOWN. I loved that stove, but the firebox size brought me back to reality, I would have to cut my wood into kindling to use it.
 
Wet cloudy and temps in the sixties aren't ideal conditions for squeezing the most out of the stoves.
 
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Looking at Matt Walkers stove I couldn't help but think of the Jotul 606, but I would rather move that 606 than his stove any day. I hope he is able to improve his numbers by the last day.

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Looks like the University of Maryland is leading
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Speaking of radiant heat, you could have roasted marsh mellows 10 feet away from that Treemont. I am not sure how they operate normally but WOW seeing no smoke coming out of that stack and that much heat coming off that thing, I seriously think it won hands down for most radiant heat. Not to mention it helped make a mean Apple Cider. Everyone could have had a taste of it but the park police were on top of that like flies on you know what, man that was good stuff.
 
Did he say if the Intensifire will be available here in the states?
 
I'd like to see the Union stove in all basic metallic black The contrasting color elements accentuate structure but the scheme can come off somewhat awkwardly. I'm not a fan at all of the gearhead direction, but some are evidently. That said, it appears to be an excellent performing stove. Hopefully they are just having fun with the new laser cutter and this will settle down into a simpler stove with options for those that want to gear it up. Note that this is designed as a radiant stove only. There is no blower option.
Does it surprise you that there isn't a blower option? I feel like I get so much more heat out of my stove because of the blower and improving the convection of air around the stove.
 
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