WoodyIsGoody
Minister of Fire
Back to the whisky comment....Middleton Very Rare 31 anyone?
Don't invite Hearth.com members over. It won't last 15 minutes! And they would drink it from the bottle.
Back to the whisky comment....Middleton Very Rare 31 anyone?
Internal fire temps never came up, though it's the same as a cat firing off at 1000-1400º and for the same reason. Nothing new here, just the way it was stated.Of course you are right, I made a logical assumption that the expert chimneysweep's method resulted in proper clean burning operation of the noncat which requires fire temperatures of over 1000 degrees which requires a lot of air. I'm sorry that it was not clear to you that I wasn't quoting chimneysweep directly.
Here's how a proper quote from me would look
The source:
https://www.hearth.com/what/noncat.html
" BECAUSE: Hot fires (i.e., temperatures of 1000 to 1200F) are required to maintain secondary combustion and burn the pollutants in the smoke."
Internal fire temps never came up, though it's the same as a cat firing off at 1000-1400º and for the same reason. Nothing new here, just the way it was stated.
... and there we have it.I love my BK, but I miss the flame shows of my previous 2 non-cat stoves! Not enough to ever consider switching back, but still.
I spent a month in Ireland this year. I have enough.Don't invite Hearth.com members over. It won't last 15 minutes! And they would drink it from the bottle.
After 2 seasons of burning my Chinook 24/7, I did miss the pretty flames of non-cat stoves. When a cat stove is turned up on high, the flames are very similar to an open fireplace in color and movement. When non-cat stoves are burning on a low setting, the flames are totally different in color and movement, and much more enjoyable to watch IMHO“I miss the pretty flames,” said no BK owner, ever. You’re really getting way too stressed out about this, and making it into something it’s not. You may think the rest of us too unrefined to care about aesthetics, but it’s not that. It’s just that this one romantic aspect of wood burning becomes less important rather quickly, when you’re burning 24/7.
Want flames for a few hours, turn the BK up to a burn rate similar to any non-cat. Want long gentle burn times, turn it down to where only BK can run. The beauty is having both options, not worrying about whether the cat needs to be run 5% hotter or cooler to achieve identical flame show.
After 2 seasons of burning my Chinook 24/7, I did miss the pretty flames of non-cat stoves. When a cat stove is turned up on high, the flames are very similar to an open fireplace in color and movement. When non-cat stoves are burning on a low setting, the flames are totally different in color and movement, and much more enjoyable to watch IMHO
I'm sorry, I didn't switch to non-cat only for the flame show. Many reasons, and nothing against cat stoves or BK, led me down the path to owning a Jotul F55I know a few members here that went back to other type of heating sources for other reasons but never for the flames on a tube stoves. Oh well. I don't know what to say. I think everything is possible in life. What kind/brand do you have now?
Hey, we all have our likes and dislikes and of course BK is not neither everybody's stove. But that was the way it sounds.I'm sorry, I didn't switch to non-cat only for the flame show. Many reasons, and nothing against cat stoves or BK, led me down the path to owning a Jotul F55
My apologies, I thought were just discussing the difference between the flame shows of cat stove vs. non-cat in this thread. That's all that I was referring toHey, we all have our likes and dislikes and of course BK is not neither everybody's stove. But that was the way it sounds.
Is it like 30-45 mins of primary on a cat and then almost nothing?
I can't speak to how a non-hybrid cat shows flame, but the show in my stove really depends on how low I want to run it. If I want to run it low, then yes, the flames will mostly disappear in the time frame you mention. But if I open the air back up, I can get a good display. Also, when it is very cold out and I'm running a very full firebox, because I have a cat/tube hybrid i can get quite a good display of secondaries for a good long while.
I have often tweaked the air supply just for the sake of chasing some cool ghost flames in a dark room, with pretty good success. In that respect, I'm guessing the hybrid is probably going to be superior to the straight cat, but someone who's run both would have to confirm that.
With the location of our fireplace being non-ideal for heating the whole house, but 100% ideal for viewing from 3/4 of the house, flame and ambiance really are more important consideration to me than I realize it is for most here.
I’m with you , I’ve already told OP he is stressing too much about flamesI think the management at Comcast spent less time discussing the purchase of Time Warner Cable, before they dropped $70 billion on it, than you have spent discussing the potential purchase of a $3000 stove. It's time to move on this, SoS!
Not me. I prefer to do all my second guessing before I buy. LolI’m with you , I’ve already told OP he is stressing too much about flames
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