Cars? sedans.

[bassJAM]

I'm one of those people that actually use their truck for work. The big three own the work truck world. Toyota has made some inroads recenctly , I've seen more of them being worked BUT I've also heard a fair share of bitching about problems with them too. The Tundra should be better given how expensive it is. Titan?! That's not a work truck! Never even seen one on a job site or lumberyard..... There are a lot of those really ugly Nissan vans about however.

Around here I see just about as many Titan's as Tundras being worked, I see both as fleet trucks as well. They are both very solid trucks with great drivetrains (well, Nissan's Dana 44 isn't that great) but I'll admit reliability isn't up to Japanese par. Still, not any worse than the Big 3 has to offer. I think the Japanese are still learning how American's use trucks and the abuse those that are actually worked can be put through, it'll be interesting to see what they bring out for a 2nd gen on both.

 

[flyingcow]

I 've always changed the tranny fluid every 30k, serpentine belt every60k, etc those things pay off.

 

[Retired Guy]

Japanese technology is pretty good.
http://www.gizmag.com/nissan-zeod-r...ail&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-cbdab42c9c-91199729

 

[TMonter]

The BMW can stop in an emergency situation in 107 feet from 60 mph, the camry takes a snails pace at 119 ft., that's more than a full car (camry) length, that could be deadly. That's a huge difference, is that worth 2800?

Again, what are you talking about? Go buy a maf sensor for a Toyota and then go buy one for a BMW. You are more likely to be screwed at either dealer, but you will then find out that the euro parts wholesalers, local and online, have better pricing than what you will find for any Japanese brand. I can buy BMW synthetic oil cheaper at the dealer than the local parts store! Try it yourself, its rebottled Castrol synthetic from Europe for a buck less than anywhere else you can buy it. Brakes for my 540 6speed? How about $75 a wheel, rotor and pads? That's an expensive v8 performance sedan.... Not! Sorry, but when the Toyota needs, it costs at least as much and usually more than any German I've owned.

For a single car yes, but when yo go across the board and when you consider most people don't do their own maintenance the picture is different.

For example the cheapest I could find for new brakes on my wife's van this last summer for around 450 bucks for all 4 wheels. I did all 4 with new front rotors and having the rear brakes turned for under $150. That included shoes for the rear, pads for the front, rotors, wheel cylinders for the rear and new brake fluid.

On average the euro cars are more expensive to fix and the numbers prove this out.

 

[rwthomas1]

Well, we all drive what we like or need to I suppose..... I'll keep my German iron, thanks. Just do me a favor and keep those Camrys out of MY left lane!

 

[ironspider]

Well, we all drive what we like or need to I suppose..... I'll keep my German iron, thanks. Just do me a favor and keep those Camrys out of MY left lane!

Amen to that

 

[jharkin]

You guys just can't resist can you ....

 

[jebatty]

I'll keep my German iron, thanks. Just do me a favor and keep those Camrys out of MY left lane!

Looks like some friendly passive aggression being expressed. Achtung!

 

[jharkin]

Deutschland uber alles!

 

[Retired Guy]

This is starting to remind me of the management-union negotiations on an episode of "Murphy Brown"