The EKO is on the low side.
What others cost less than $6000? I'm shopping right now!
I'm still new to wood boilers. Michigan doesn't require EPA OWBs as far as I know.
I see there's a used Garn in the for sale section here........
The EKO is on the low side.
What others cost less than $6000? I'm shopping right now!
I'm still new to wood boilers. Michigan doesn't require EPA OWBs as far as I know.
Here is a pic of the beautiful wiring job you get for 3500Hi Maple1,
Here's what I was thinking when I posted those numbers:
http://holland.craigslist.org/fod/3706476097.html
http://swmi.craigslist.org/hsd/3773077948.html
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/for/3787094813.html
I made reference to my previous neighbors who installed OWBs and both had yards full of smoke.
I think they had the smaller model here and I want to say they were in the $5k range a few years ago when I asked about them.
http://hawkenenergy.com/products/furnaces/
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Here is a pic of the beautiful wiring job you get for 3500
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Mike, how did you get a pic of the back of my free heat machine?Here is a pic of the beautiful wiring job you get for 3500
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Here is a pic of the beautiful wiring job you get for 3500
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It is, but it's not a batch burner. Since it idles theres questions weather or not its as efficient as burning a load full out to heat storage.I thought E-Classic was their gasifier line?
Here is a pic of the beautiful wiring job you get for 3500
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The sad thing is they used that pic to promote their product on CL.Hey at least the squirrels will have a nice warm place to build their nest and chew on the wires! Are there no codes that make that illegal to sell? I bet you could show most 12 year olds how to wire and they would do a better job than that.
gg
Mike, how did you get a pic of the back of my free heat machine?
I don't know what kind of OWB owners some of you might be running into. The ones I've known from work readily shared their experience with their units, as I was interested in their experiences with wood-burning, and I've had the same response in kind. On the other hand I wasn't trying to say mine was better, They could draw their own conclusions. We were all trying to get off the oil/propane/natural gas bandwagon that was punishing us all financially. I could afford a newer more efficient technology, that's all. Not everyone can afford a gasifier, at least where I live. After shopping around, I guesstimate the average OWB available locally goes for considerably less than the average gasser, which I had to order from New Hampshire.
Its not a competition, and people of course are going to be defensive over something they have put a lot of time and effort into. I bet nobody here would want to have some geothermal system owner blowing smoke in their faces. So lighten up. People who do something less well than you don't need a good bashing, and are hardly stupid. I'll wager that lady who got hosed on her CB Unit would have welcomed some varying suggestions from any of us rather than to have wasted her hard earned money due to slick salesmen or not knowing about better alternatives. I was looking at CB Units myself at first.
Mike
WOW. LET ME TELL YAH, THE DIAMOND PLATE ROOF AND ACCENTS ALMOST HAD ME SOLD...The sad thing is they used that pic to promote their product on CL.
http://holland.craigslist.org/fod/3706476097.html
I still think it's an unwillingness for people to recognize the fact that there are different ways to do something. Some people are happy to have minimal processing and burn more wood, do I feel that way, no. If they have access to lots of wood, I'm not too worried there is some type of wood-consuming mongering and the whole country will become like Hati, deforested desert. Are we worried about some kind of ban on wood-burning due to the billowing smoke from OWBs, and that turning into us having to go back to oil? We are set on our boilers and their efficiency, they are set on their lack of oil bills and are (usually) ok with burning copious amounts of wood (compaired to high efficiency users). They think we are nuts and we think the same of them. It's like alot of things in life, we need to try and see things from someone else's perspective, even if it goes against what we believe. That way we can understand where they are comming from, and maybe we can show them why we believe what we believe. And it is their right to have their own opinion, just as we do. I like Fords, they like Chevys etc.
It was said on the first page that we should have laws banning OWBs, that sounds like liberalism to me. We can't ban all things that we don't like, offset laws, sure, don't choke your neighbor with woodsmoke, but banning no. If I want to own 100 acres and live right in the middle and have an OWB and not bother anyone, I should be free to do so. That same thing should not happen in a subdivision or urban setting, that just makes everyone mad.
If they are totally ignorant, then let them be. I for one am about as conservitave as they come, trust me. We need to be realistic, and I for one believe that if we can use domestically produced oil and and not import huge amounts of energy, we'd be much better off. That means less gov't restriction on just about everything, and more conservitism to get there. Being a good steward, and being stupid are two different things. Coal isn't in the ground to leave there, and trees don't grow for us to hug. The O voters hang out in the AshCan for some good political debate. I do frequent there.
'Nough said, the soap box is free now..............
TS
The sad thing is they used that pic to promote their product on CL.
http://holland.craigslist.org/fod/3706476097.html
I thought the free heat machine people knew enough about wiring to include a light bulb?
Don't be a haterI'm guessing that the "free heat machine" is the one I heard a salesman describe as having non conductive steel used in the legs it stands on............ Honest to Pete, I heard him say that.
This is what I'm talking about. It's the little things that add up. "Free heat machine" didn't invent fire, they just improved it. You definitely don't want to loose all of your heat down through the legs. It never made it to production, but they actually designed the legs to have a water jacket around them to draw what little heat transferred there. Definitely ahead of their time.I'm guessing that the "free heat machine" is the one I heard a salesman describe as having non conductive steel used in the legs it stands on............ Honest to Pete, I heard him say that.
It is, but it's not a batch burner. Since it idles theres questions weather or not its as efficient as burning a load full out to heat storage.
Erin
Scott (skfire), didn't mean to offend you either. I was defending friends and co-workers, all good hard working country folk, who are really proud of their OWB's getting them out from under the oil and propane companies. There's a lot of interest from people from all walks of life in alternative energy nowadays. Its an interest shared by rednecks and tree-huggers alike. And these individuals are doing something about it which I admire.
Mike
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