Biobricks, the economics of them?

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For a combination of reasons, mostly to do with the h3ll of house renovation while you live in it, I am on my second season with the Wood Brick Fuel--they are what I can find close by the pallet.

Even at $300+ with tax, they are still cheaper than our natural gas--and the living room is wonderful in the evenings with the stove fired up. And buying firewood around here is expensive ($225/cord and up) and I have not found anyone I would do business more than once.

I do the 'teepee' arrangement with four bricks to start, & use a 1/4 of a super cedar under each side & I can get the stove up to temp pretty quickly. While I have trouble getting a super hot fire, a stack of six or nine added when up to temps and once started can be damped down and will give a nice slow fire. Quality is pretty decent, but it sounds like I may have to try the bio bricks--the Wood Bricks are softwood (and?) and do crumble/expand--although this is not a problem if you don't over fill, and you are a light-it, leave it kind of burner.

I have probably 2 cords of oak that is seasoning, and a couple of cords of mixed hardwoods in the same state, plus I have a couple of ash trees that have the borer that will be coming down soon, so I should be back on the wood program next year. But I will probably lay in a pallet of the bricks for supplemental and/or wife's occasional fire tending.

Edit to add: One thing I noticed this year is that renting a splitter has become really expensive & for those of us who have not acquired on, you need to add that into the cost structure too. Hopefully by next year I will have found a decent splitter that I can afford.
 
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About $1.15/each for the Idaho logs when purchased by the pallet. I'm gonna pick up a pallet of them after the spring thaw.

markinpdx said:
BeGreen said:
If this thread doesn't get back on track the local constabulary is going to ash can it.

(Grumbling mod with no Tractor Supply stores in WA or OR states >:-( )


Hey, somewhat back on topic, here in Portland OR I've tried out both the Bear Bricks and the N. Idaho logs. The N Idaho product is MUCH more dense and therefore lasts much longer. I haven't figured out the relative cost per btu, though; the Bear Bricks are about 50 cents a brick while the logs are $1.20 per log.
 
paredown said:
I do the 'teepee' arrangement with four bricks to start, & use a 1/4 of a super cedar under each side & I can get the stove up to temp pretty quickly. While I have trouble getting a super hot fire, a stack of six or nine added when up to temps and once started can be damped down and will give a nice slow fire. Quality is pretty decent, but it sounds like I may have to try the bio bricks--the Wood Bricks are softwood (and?) and do crumble/expand--although this is not a problem if you don't over fill, and you are a light-it, leave it kind of burner.

Far as I'm aware (and they make this claim) Wood Brick Fuel is 100% hardwood, not softwood... I think the relative flakyness/crumblyness of the bricks has to do with the consistency and size of the source sawdust they use. Finer sawdust tends to make a denser/more consistent brick as I've seen (with the other product I use, Eco-Energy Fuel blocks).
 
Has anyone tried the EcoBlock or BIO BLOCKS Compressed Firewood from the manufacturer in East Orrville, OH?
http://www.eco-blockfirewood.com/

2. What is the difference between BioBlocks and EZ Bricks?

The two brands are made nearly identically. The difference comes in the size. EZ Bricks are a large (10″x4″) block. BioBlocks are smaller (3.75″x 5.75″). EZ Bricks are wrapped 6 per pack and BioBlocks are 12 per pack. BioBlocks are also available in bulk, meaning they can be sold on a skid unwrapped (individual bricks).
Their prices seem very competitive:
Individual Pack of EZ-Bricks or BIO BLOCKS $3 cash or credit card



1/4 ton (22 packages- 500 pounds) BIO BLOCKS $54 cash/ $56 credit card

1/4 pallet EZ-Bricks (25 packages- weighs a little over 500 pounds) $58 cash/$60 credit card



1/2 ton BIO BLOCKS (44 packages- 1000 pounds) $99 cash/$102 credit card

1/2 pallet EZ-Bricks (50 packages- weighs about 1100) $107 cash/$110 credit card



1 ton BIO BLOCKS (88 packages- 2000 pounds) $185 cash/ $190 credit card

1 pallet EZ-Bricks (100 packages- 2000+ pounds) $195 cash/$200 credit card



BIO BLOCKS are also available as a pallet of 1056 unwrapped bricks — 1 ton $175 cash/$180 credit card

It would be too far to drive just to buy a skid load, but I have to go to Cleveland for a conference next month, and if their compressed wood product is comparable to the EcoBricks from TSC, I'll take along the enclosed cargo trailer and bring home a ton.

Anyone have experience with these BIO BLOCKS or EZ-Bricks?
 
I have both at my house right now. Just bought a ton of the EZs and paid a little more than you quoted. As for performance they seem to be about the same for me. I would just get best deal possible on either brand.
 
wkpoor said:
I have both at my house right now. Just bought a ton of the EZs and paid a little more than you quoted. As for performance they seem to be about the same for me. I would just get best deal possible on either brand.

Have you compared them to the EcoBricks from Tractor Supply Company? Are they as dense?
 
BrianK said:
wkpoor said:
I have both at my house right now. Just bought a ton of the EZs and paid a little more than you quoted. As for performance they seem to be about the same for me. I would just get best deal possible on either brand.

Have you compared them to the eco-bricks from tractor supply company? Are they as dense?
Sorry I wasn't clear on my earlier post. I currently have the ecobricks and the ezbricks. other than how they are pakaged they appear similar, little different in color, but stove seems to gooble them just the same.
 
spirilis said:
paredown said:
I do the 'teepee' arrangement with four bricks to start, & use a 1/4 of a super cedar under each side & I can get the stove up to temp pretty quickly. While I have trouble getting a super hot fire, a stack of six or nine added when up to temps and once started can be damped down and will give a nice slow fire. Quality is pretty decent, but it sounds like I may have to try the bio bricks--the Wood Bricks are softwood (and?) and do crumble/expand--although this is not a problem if you don't over fill, and you are a light-it, leave it kind of burner.

Far as I'm aware (and they make this claim) Wood Brick Fuel is 100% hardwood, not softwood... I think the relative flakyness/crumblyness of the bricks has to do with the consistency and size of the source sawdust they use. Finer sawdust tends to make a denser/more consistent brick as I've seen (with the other product I use, Eco-Energy Fuel blocks).

They may claim it, but the one pack we bought, you could smell the pine when it was opened-and we had no pine in the house.
 
wkpoor said:
I currently have the ecobricks and the ezbricks. other than how they are packaged they appear similar, little different in color, but stove seems to gobble them just the same.

Thanks, good to hear that.

Their site also has this at the top right:

In stock: new XL Blocks $185/ton- big 7lb Block burns xtra long!

So I guess they have three different products now. I wonder if they're all from different manufacturers with differing densities/properties. After reading all these threads, I'll probably just play it safe and order the EZ Bricks as they seem comparable to the EcoBricks you're using.
 
I don't use the bricks everyday. Just when I feel the wood needs a pick me up. Last night at 1AM I added 4 bricks to what was already in there which wasn't much and 10hrs later I was at 200 degrees. I know pretty cool but lots of coals that ignited the next load instantly. I still think they give awesome performance and help hold a long fire. Could I have done that on wood, sure, but I don't have any oak, elm, hickory or ash that is dry.
 
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