thats what its like trying to get a handfull of my friends together to get my boiler in my basement. as expected a few have work, or family issues, cant do it during the day, but are available at night. those things i can work around. no problem, i just have to figure out when i can get most of them there. the thing that bothers me.......we are all about 38-45 years old, but i cant get peter to come if paul is gonna be there, and then theres the two other guys (brother-inlaws) that can be in the same room with one another. the funny thing is, i have 2 friends - the ones wife is the other ones ex-wife.(ones married to her, one was married to her) they get along great. go figure. anyways - probably saturday night the boiler will be sliding its way into the basement.