Veganism, Human Health and Conspiracies.

[stoveliker]

What sauces do you use. Ingredient-wise. Premade contains a lot of stuff that's less healthy (sugar, salt, preservation agents etc.).
And self-made sauces require quite some time.

 

[woodgeek]

What sauces do you use. Ingredient-wise. Premade contains a lot of stuff that's less healthy (sugar, salt, preservation agents etc.).
And self-made sauces require quite some time.

I have a small palette of stuff, some quick and some slow.

Lazy faves:
-'Annies vegan mac' boxed mac n cheese. add 0.5-1 tbl of nooch to sauce, 1 tbl vegan butter and 2 'field roast' smoked vegan hot dogs, chopped. Makes 2 servings.
-mock egg salad: mashed chickpeas with vegan mayo and dijon mustard with onion/garlic powder. Secret ingredient: Kala Namak salt. On Toast.
E.g. https://www.kathysvegankitchen.com/chickpea-egg-salad/

Quick:
-white bean soup with garlic and olive oil (ready in 10 mins) with crusty bread.

Marcella Hazan's White Bean Soup with Garlic and Parsley Recipe on Food52

How to cook a soulful bean soup in 10 minutes? As Marcella Hazan used to tell her students, "What you leave out is just as important as what you put in." Adapted slightly from <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Classic-Italian-Cooking-Marcella/dp/039458404X/?tag=food52-20"><strong>The...

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-tomato onion (vegan) butter sauce (takes about 30 mins to cook, but only 3 to put together) on pasta.

Tomato Sauce with Onion and Butter

This Tomato Sauce with Onion and Butter recipe by Marcella Hazan offers a simple technique of combining fresh or canned tomatoes, butter, and yellow onion with a low and slow cook method for an irresistible sauce with a pure sweet tomato taste.

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(both from Marcela Hazan)

Intermediate:
-impossible meatballs (usual meatball recipe + zest of one lemon, flax egg instead of egg, cook in sauce) in jar tomato and basil sauce (I like Rao's), on spaghetti. w/ vegan parm.
(mod from my MIL)
-wild rice soup with great northern beans and vegan sausage (about 15 mins to assemble, an hour to cook), with crusty bread.
(mod from Isa Moscowitz, I use browned sausage medallions instead of seitan, I up the herbs by 50%)

Wild Rice Soup

40 minutes prep/cook time INGREDIENTS 1 tablespoon olive oil 1 medium yellow onion, thinly sliced 1/2 teaspoon salt, plus a pinch 4 cloves garlic, minced 1 cup peeled and thinly sliced carrots 2 ri…

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Involved:
-veggie tikka masala with roasted cauliflower and smoked tofu, on white or brown rice or quinoa.
(mod from Sweet Potato Soul, drop sweet potato and tempeh, add asparagus and smoked tofu (resembles ham) I up the spices 50%)

Tempeh Tikka Masala

Instant Pot Vegan Tikka Masala: a rich Indian-inspired curry with spices, tempeh, roasted vegetables, and coconut milk. Easy and delicious!

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-12 ingredient lentil bolognese on spaghetti
(mod from rainbowplantlife. I use green or black lentils, cook 2x longer. I also add minced carrot and (frozen) roasted mushrooms.

Lentil Bolognese

This vegan Lentil Bolognese is an easy, yet gourmet meal made with 10 pantry staple ingredients. It’s deceptively meaty and ultra-satisfying!

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The meatballs and bolognese blow (non-vegan) people away. The involved things I batch cook and get 4-5 meals out of. They are better as leftovers anyway. 😋

 

[lml999]

Fascinating thread...ran across it by accident via "summary of what you missed" email.

We shifted to a Mediterranean style diet a year ago. I cut out almost all meat, except for lamb chops once every couple of months (otherwise the dog would revolt). I eat fish as often as I can, mostly wild salmon.

My understanding is that inflammation is a cause of much disease, and both ultraprocessed food, and meat are sources of inflammation.

Also, as others have commented, exercise and social connection are critical to healthful longevity.

 

[crstrode]

Why do all vegans have to announce that everything they eat is vegan or everything they brought to a family dinner is made with vegan ingredients? Or is it just my two vegan sisters who do that?

It because Vegans view themselves as superior beings that have been bestowed with unfathomable secrets of the cosmos - secrets that cannot be understood by mere mortals, and as such, it is their personal mission to constantly announce and promulgate their own virtue, and to denigrate those not so blessed.

 

[woodgeek]

It because Vegans view themselves as superior beings that have been bestowed with unfathomable secrets of the cosmos - secrets that cannot be understood by mere mortals, and as such, it is their personal mission to constantly announce and promulgate their own virtue, and to denigrate those not so blessed.

I'm just trying to be healthier and live longer. And 'eating plant based' seems to agree with my system. YMMV.

Oh, and reduce my eco footprint at the same time. Any benefits to animal welfare are a bonus.

 

[joop]

if we didn't eat them they wouldn't exist.DON'T CUT THE CHRISTMAS TREE'S THAT WOULDN'T BE GROWN OTHERWISE hopefully we pull our heads out of our butts soon.if it works for you geek go for it

 

[Prometeo]

a point of view, a vegetable-only diet could lead to greater ingestion of sugars and therefore greater glycation which damages the cardiovascular system seem..

 

[woodgeek]

a point of view, a vegetable-only diet could lead to greater ingestion of sugars and therefore greater glycation which damages the cardiovascular system seem..

Its very trendy nowadays to attribute diabetes to excess sugar consumption or even the proportion of carbs in the diet.

The scientific evidence for this is scant.

Blood glucose is highly regulated by the insulin system, and high blood glucose is usually associated with insulin insensitivity, which has many physiological causes, notably high BMI.

Folks with high blood sugar often improve after extreme weight loss, which can be achieved by either high carb or low carb diets.

 

[Prometeo]

Its very trendy nowadays to attribute diabetes to excess sugar consumption or even the proportion of carbs in the diet.

The scientific evidence for this is scant.

Blood glucose is highly regulated by the insulin system, and high blood glucose is usually associated with insulin insensitivity, which has many physiological causes, notably high BMI.

Folks with high blood sugar often improve after extreme weight loss, which can be achieved by either high carb or low carb diets.

I am not referring to diabetes, but to many pathologies, basically sugars react and bind to proteins and fats, depositing themselves in arteries, and also slightly damaging organs, skin, however it also depends from person to person

Advanced glycation end-product - Wikipedia

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[woodgeek]

I am not referring to diabetes, but to many pathologies, basically sugars react and bind to proteins and fats, depositing themselves in arteries, and also slightly damaging organs, skin, however it also depends from person to person

Advanced glycation end-product - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Huh. AGEs are the hypothesized carcinogens formed on grilled meats, when eaten.

AGEs also form at much lower levels in the body, and there is a (very old) hypothesis that they are part of aging. I haven't seen much about that in years.

And again, since blood glucose is regulated in healthy people its hard to see how eating more carbs would increase AGEs. Elevated AGEs are implicated in some side effect of diabetes.

 

[woodgeek]

Oh, and I did finally get a well visit, and saw how my vitals were doing.

My measured blood pressure was normal, just under 120/80 ( I knew this from home measurements)
(My blood pressure in 2018 was 140/95, stage II hypertension).

My current blood work was:
Total cholesterol: 176
Triglycerides: 92
HDL: 65
LDL: 93
HbA1C: 5.5
And a bunch of other stuff that was 'normal'.
The only thing out of range was HDL, which was elevated, but not a concern.

My previous lipid panel (10 years ago) was:
Total cholesterol: 203
Triglycerides: 68
HDL: 58
LDL: 131

Overall, my doctor was happy with me, as a 56 yo man not on any meds, and told me to keep doing what I was doing.