Unique Situation...I need a bigger stove

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Not necessarily. There is another factor in play called heat retention. Soapstone is particularly good at this, though a large mass of metal or masonry can do similarly. The btus are not necessarily going up the flue, they are going into the stone or metal. This is the principal behind masonry heaters. Soapstone holds twice as much heat per pound (specific heat) as iron or steel.

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All that sounds great but imo the op needs the fastest heat transfer he can get with the biggest box.
I would could consider the PH if i was looking for a stove to heat a house like mine.
I think I would wait another year or two though ..I see by reading here they are having their share of probs.
That said..I doubt I change stoves.
The king just does everything I pretty much want it too.
Lazy t-stat though...but not a big deal.
 
10-16 hrs on medium to low burn? With 6cf of wood? I can get 12+ with less than 1/2 that load.
EPA exempt & not UL approved.
110 to 195 lbs? Too many red flags popping up in my mind.
Run, run very far away from that overpriced pc of crap!
 
Needs no ember protection?

I think i would pass on on also..though would like to see it in action.
 
Check out the DS Machine Energy Max 160.It is a 160,000 btu stove with secondary air,thermostat,glass door,heat exchanger tubes,and ash pan.These are Amish built in Pa.This thing weighs 960lbs.
 
He lives half an hour North of my family home in Westchster, NY. I am well familiar with his climate, which is considerably warmer than mine in Southern Ontario.

You are simply wrong.

For many years I used a Fireview as my only heat source in Southern Ontario. The first floor was warm, except when it was colder than 20 below F. The seond and third floors were not. They'd be in the low 60s, or even 50's, if it was bitterly cold out. Fine for sleeping actually, and that's all we have upstairs: bedrooms. Have electric heat available in the bathrooms, so just heated them if having baths. My home has nearly as much square footage as the original poster...about 4200. Plus a full basement.

The Fireview is a fairly small straight cat soapstone stove.

The Progress Hybrid is an entire different story. EPA rated 71,000 plus versus Fireview 42,000 or so EPA rating, and the heat put off by the PH IS that much more. And it puts it out from darn near the same amount of wood.

My home is now comfortable in any temperature/weather condition, and the temperatures are very even throughout the home. One is not aware of any chilling as one climbs from the first to second floor, or second to third. Don't really understand why you think radiant heat won't warm a home. It does: very comfortably. And it does not hurt a cat stove to run it at 550 to 600 with really active flames. Like any other stove, you want to keep it under 700. Not good for the cast iron structural parts.

Have you ever heated with a soapstone stove?
Man how in the world did you heat with the Fireview in your climate ? I'm in Massachusetts and had to send my Fireview back to Woodstock because it couldn't heat the area I had it in.Though my house has insulation needs.Our temps are no where near 20 below.What's your secret ?
 
Man how in the world did you heat with the Fireview in your climate ? I'm in Massachusetts and had to send my Fireview back to Woodstock because it couldn't heat the area I had it in.Though my house has insulation needs.Our temps are no where near 20 below.What's your secret ?
Sent you a PM with details, so as not to bore others.:)
 
OK...time to chime in again.

Thanks again for all the comments. I have been enjoying the back and forth on the virtues of Steel vs Soap. I am in agreement with both of you....if that is possible. While l really like the idea of a buffered heat distribution as we are truly burning continuously from Oct - March...I also feel that the cat and additional joints and cast parts of a soap will equate to higher maintenance costs/time.

I am still very much on the fence on what to do. Don't want to get rid of my steel Quad 5700 only to buy another one. This stove has been great...virtually no maintenance other than replacing brick as needed. I have loved the 24" -26" log length..really like a "rail road" loader (front to back).

Feeling that Soap or Steel is not really the issue for me at this point. We are back at the simple fact that I need a bigger stove..be it steel or soap.

Again....
Second stove is out
Coal is out...I have 6 acres of oak here
Furnace is out if it looks like a furnace...that said..must say that I am impressed with the DS Machine furnaces as they are less ugly and have some glass.
Ideally no cat but not a deal breaker
Just want simple with big BTU output..figuring 4.0 or larger box.
 
OK...time to chime in again.

Thanks again for all the comments. I have been enjoying the back and forth on the virtues of Steel vs Soap. I am in agreement with both of you....if that is possible. While l really like the idea of a buffered heat distribution as we are truly burning continuously from Oct - March...I also feel that the cat and additional joints and cast parts of a soap will equate to higher maintenance costs/time.

I am still very much on the fence on what to do. Don't want to get rid of my steel Quad 5700 only to buy another one. This stove has been great...virtually no maintenance other than replacing brick as needed. I have loved the 24" -26" log length..really like a "rail road" loader (front to back).

Feeling that Soap or Steel is not really the issue for me at this point. We are back at the simple fact that I need a bigger stove..be it steel or soap.

Again....
Second stove is out
Coal is out...I have 6 acres of oak here
Furnace is out if it looks like a furnace...that said..must say that I am impressed with the DS Machine furnaces as they are less ugly and have some glass.
Ideally no cat but not a deal breaker
Just want simple with big BTU output..figuring 4.0 or larger box.

Seems you are on the right path.
I agree the cat stove with the long slow burn would not be the stove for you.
You do need the option of big btu's coming off whatever stove fast and plentiful.
I just don't see a soapstone doing that for you..not with 4500sq.ft.
You need hot harsh heat..not "soft" heat!
Now if you don't mind just saving 30-50% off your fuel bill..buy one.
But for that matter I doubt any stove will do 100%
Good luck with whatever you do and stay warm..course summers coming!
 
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