The Ideal Steel in black

[Backwoods Savage]

I've yet to see anything on the outside of this stove I would describe as "nicer". Remember, I own a BK and know an ugly stove when I see one.

Or that could be stated as you simply do not like the stove nor do you like any of the extra designs. But one must also remember that we all have different tastes. For example, I love the Fireview but still find that many think it too ornate. That is fine.

 

[begreen]

One has to keep in mind that cast is more expensive than steel. The exhaust will be cast and it will be rear or top exhaust. I agree, it could be interesting if they could join up with the original team. As for clearances, I think they will be very low but too early to talk about that yet.

Of course it would cost more. It would also increase sales. Without the tux it wouldn't make it into this house. I guess if one wants to go to the ball one needs to dress and tip the help appropriately. This is not picking on the Steel. My wife didn't particularly like the looks of the Summit either, but the same firebox in a cast iron wrapper is good to go with her.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Of course it would cost more. It would also increase sales. Without the tux it wouldn't make it into this house. I guess if one wants to go to the ball one needs to dress and tip the help appropriately.

 

[dave_376]

A little off topic but I want a lager insert with a cat...something the size of the summit ... maybe ever the BK king in an insert.

 

[Papa-Yankee-Romeo-Oscar]

Same. I don't care how much heat a stove gives off with a few splits. I need to know what it does loaded full.


Understood. I feel the same about the PE steel free standing stoves. They look like a damn microwave build in 1984.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Progress. But, if the Steel can give me 20 hours of usable heat for $1500, That sure as hell beats the $3,400 for a BK. Especially since I need two.

+1...I'm hoping they can deliver on the 20hrs for $1500, I'll buy one. I have planned all along to put a second stove in my kitchen knowing that the Manchester, or just about any stove for that matter was going to heat 3100sf of drafty, not-so-open farmhouse. So far it has surprised me but on these days with a high of 25 and heavy winds from the north, I have to load the thing a little more than I'd like.

 

[rdust]

Or that could be stated as you simply do not like the stove nor do you like any of the extra designs. But one must also remember that we all have different tastes. For example, I love the Fireview but still find that many think it too ornate. That is fine.

Dennis I agree!

Unfortunately many of the Woodstock loyalists have been saying for years how god awful ugly the BK stoves are without ever considering people have different tastes or expectations from a stove. I can see how some users of the "ugly" stoves are now more than happy to let the WS loyalists that their company now offers one of those "ugly" stoves.

 

[Hogwildz]

There is a new red headed step child on the block.
I bet BK owners are happier than all.
No longer the ugliest stove on the market BAHAHAHAHA.

 

[begreen]

If it burns well and the price is right, this red-headed gal will be the one that's chuckling soon. So far she's showing a lot of spunk.

This reminds me of the old Jimmy Soul tune.

 

[ddddddden]

. . .laughing all the way to the bank.
They have probably already sold 1,000+ of these stoves to Popular Mechanics readers.

 

[BrotherBart]

Hell I am the one that thinks the 30-NC in a brown suit is gorgeous. And that the Fireview is fugly. I want a stove. Not a Buddhist temple.

Point being, different smoke for different folk. Its all good.

 

[ddddddden]

It is a wise man who recognizes the temple of the cat.

 

[weatherguy]

A little off topic but I want a lager insert with a cat...something the size of the summit ... maybe ever the BK king in an insert.

The King doesn't come in an insert, only the Princess with a 2.54 cf box, look at the Buck 91, huge box and cat.

 

[DevilsBrew]

I like the all black. It does look like an old stove. Kinda steampunkish.

 

[Tenn Dave]

There is a new red headed step child on the block.
I bet BK owners are happier than all.
No longer the ugliest stove on the market BAHAHAHAHA.

This new stove certainly wouldn't be my first choice in a beauty contest, but I still think BK 'rules the roost' when it comes to ugly stoves.

 

[Tenn Dave]

Are there any beta testers of the new Woodstock stove posting here on Hearth.com ? If so let us know what you are experiencing with this heater.

 

[Coog]

I'd buy it for $1500. Challenge is getting the wife on board with another stove. It doesn't look that bad.

I still do not understand the technology. I looked on their website but was not real clear. The best part about BK is the simlicity of design. For $1500 it can't be too complicated.

 

[Grisu]

A little off topic but I want a lager insert with a cat...something the size of the summit ... maybe ever the BK king in an insert.

The Kuma Sequoia comes also as an insert. It is the largest one I know with a 3.6 cu ft firebox. Requires an 8-inch liner though. (P.S. Maybe open another thread?)

Add-on: Apart from an insert, the Woodstock Progress Hybrid stove can be rear-vented and has a 2.8 cu. ft. firebox. I also found a bigger insert than the Kuma, the Buck 91 with 4.4 cu ft and cat.

 

[Osage]

If it burns well and the price is right, this red-headed gal will be the one that's chuckling soon. So far she's showing a lot of spunk.

This reminds me of the old Jimmy Soul tune.

I have seen some good looking redheads and I like this one.

 

[rdust]

Are there any beta testers of the new Woodstock stove posting here on Hearth.com ? If so let us know what you are experiencing with this heater.

I wish there was, I'm not blown away by the the one I've read about so far.

 

[Tenn Dave]

I wish there was, I'm not blown away by the the one I've read about so far.

Which one are you reading about? Who is posting?

 

[begreen]

I like the all black. It does look like an old stove. Kinda steampunkish.

That's my impression.

 

[Tenn Dave]

Enough already about this stove's looks, or lack thereof. How is it performing in beta testing? The intented emphasis is function over form. Much like BK.

 

[begreen]

From what I have seen and read the stove performs similarly to the Lopi Cape Cod hybrid. Clean burning, clean glass and 10-12 hr burn times. It is a radiant stove, no blower. Just remember, this is a pre-production stove still. Tweaks and different wood may increase or decrease performance.

 

[becasunshine]

I just went to the Blaze King site and took a look at their stoves. I don't know much about wood stoves- I am trying to learn- but the spec numbers looked impressive to my untrained eye. I am all about function over form. That being said, I do appreciate the aesthetic as well. I think the Blaze King stoves look fine! They look like wood stoves- which is what I expect a wood stove to look like- both on the web site and in the house. I think they are quite attractive. Humor a newbie: do the Ideal Steel numbers compete with the Blaze King numbers so far? I like the idea of the thermal mass properties of the soapstone liner in the Ideel Steel. (We did attend the Decathlon. We are in the nascent stages of shopping for a wood stove for a specific purpose.)

 

[begreen]

Hmmm, BK Princess $2800, Ideal Steel $1500, black glass vs great fire view. Yes I think the numbers are competitive, but then again one is not comparing identical stoves here. I think it's best to compare hybrid to hybrid.