Still without new fireplace!!

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
18,617
central pa
I get mixed responses from manufacturers about warranty support. They also want to charge me list price. If I do the install and buy direct, I should get at least dealer pricing. They want to make the profit without me getting any benefit.
You arent getting dealer pricing because youbarent a dealer. Many manufacturers require you have a showroom and have minimum orders to be a dealer.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
18,617
central pa
Well, started the demo. I opened the wall on the second floor to the chimney chase. Poorly insulated, no fire stop between floors, old stack touching one of the insulated hvac ducts.. pictures to follow.. glad I have 2 weeks before the install. A lot of corrective work to do. Would have sent the budget through the roof.
Yet another example of a zc fireplace installed incorrectly. We see it way too often.
 
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rtros956

New Member
Oct 26, 2018
30
Thornhurst, PA
17891ED9-3CB4-4D78-BC01-8D0A368EEF78.jpeg 46CAACA0-C15C-4141-94EC-5FE09B9267F6.jpeg Install was yesterday. Overall a very good installer. I have a question about taping the joints of the chimney air kit. I’ve seen videos of some installer using aluminum tape on the box where is attaches to the chimney. My installer wouldn’t do it. That looks like a real source of cold air into the chase. Has anyone used aluminum tape in this area? Can you share your experience?
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
18,617
central pa
View attachment 244598 View attachment 244599 Install was yesterday. Overall a very good installer. I have a question about taping the joints of the chimney air kit. I’ve seen videos of some installer using aluminum tape on the box where is attaches to the chimney. My installer wouldn’t do it. That looks like a real source of cold air into the chase. Has anyone used aluminum tape in this area? Can you share your experience?
The air cooled chimney is a source of cold air that box is just a drop in the bucket. I would bet the installer wouldn't do it because the instructions say not to.
 

rtros956

New Member
Oct 26, 2018
30
Thornhurst, PA
The air cooled chimney is a source of cold air that box is just a drop in the bucket. I would bet the installer wouldn't do it because the instructions say not to.
I checked the instructions and they don’t say either way. I’m going to tape the joints. You said “drop in the bucket”. What else am I missing?
Thanks for your input.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
18,617
central pa
I checked the instructions and they don’t say either way. I’m going to tape the joints. You said “drop in the bucket”. What else am I missing?
Thanks for your input.
Your chimney is air cooled it has constant cool air running through the outside cooling both the exhaust and the surrounding chase.
 

rtros956

New Member
Oct 26, 2018
30
Thornhurst, PA
2F21F65B-FE87-4061-A349-20E61DD94700.jpeg I used a caulk product to seal the outside air kit. Temp up to 1360 degrees F. I am taking my time and reviewing every possible air leak and solution.

I installed the first box header to support the mantel. Another will go below this and then the studs.
I want it done but I’m afraid not to think everything completely through.
 

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Drewman

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Aug 10, 2015
80
Ohio
Looks tight!

Is that an exterior wall? You could insulate and seal it as long as you maintain clearances.
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
78,572
South Puget Sound, WA
That's a good sized fire, must have been a bit warm in there.
 

rtros956

New Member
Oct 26, 2018
30
Thornhurst, PA
I only filled the firebox 1/2 way. It just took off. It is in the 50's here and we ended up opening the windows and doors!! The smoke alarms went off with the burn off of the oils, etc!! Definitely generated some heat..
 
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Hogwildz

Minister of Fire
View attachment 244909 Sorry I am so slow with this. Between all my other projects and fireplace ocd, I am behind the eight ball . First fire. I replaced all of the air intake flex duct with solid. Sealing every joint.
I was going to suggest replacing the OAK flex with rigid, glad I kept reading before I posted. Good decision.
I bet the house was super toasty with that fire, I'm sitting here in A/C and can wait a while till I even think of sparking a flame.
The beauty of doing much yourself, is knowing it is done how you want, and if knowledgeable enough,, or researched and prepared well, you know it is done right, as well as saving some coin.
Looks great, nice work!
 

rtros956

New Member
Oct 26, 2018
30
Thornhurst, PA
It is very cool here at night, mid to upper 50’s. Northeast PA summer is short. We have outside fires this time of year. This weekend I am installing the hearth and We’ll have a fire right after that.
 

begreen

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Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
78,572
South Puget Sound, WA
Looks great!
 

Ludlow

Minister of Fire
Jun 4, 2018
1,082
PA
Beautiful. Many happy burns to you.