Somerset vs. Green supreme.... pellet wars in the Englander cpm

[SmokeyTheBear]

Maybe its because the stove is in my basement, everybody knows that nothing good can come from a basement install...

When you really feel like you can handle it you need to have a head to head between Infernos and NEWP. Bear runs for cover ............. > >

 

[jtakeman]

When you really feel like you can handle it you need to have a head to head between Infernos and NEWP. Bear runs for cover ............. > >

Dis I gotta see!

 

[MikeP]

When you really feel like you can handle it you need to have a head to head between Infernos and NEWP. Bear runs for cover ............. > >

These supposed to be the worst of the worst? I'll keep my eyes open for them, don't believe any are available close by.

 

[jtakeman]

These supposed to be the worst of the worst? I'll keep my eyes open for them, don't believe any are available close by.

I have heard some say Inferno's are better and pretty hot. I haven't tried any this season though(stoves still a little green from the last time).

From what I hear, They have a new-better fiber source. So might be worth a try?

 

[subsailor]

I have heard some say Inferno's are better and pretty hot.

 

[subsailor]

I have heard some say Inferno's are better and pretty hot.

OMV predicted it!

 

[jtakeman]

OMV predicted it!

I remember that, But can't find the thread. And I have seen a few here say they are doing pretty well for them.

Was it OMV that said he saw the trucks and the nice clean fiber?

 

[subsailor]

I remember that, But can't find the thread. And I have seen a few here say they are doing pretty well for them.

Was it OMV that said he saw the trucks and the nice clean fiber?

I think the owner of Inferno was the guy OMV met in a parking lot to discuss a job he wanted OMV to do. (cue the Godfather music)

 

[CT Pellet]

When you really feel like you can handle it you need to have a head to head between Infernos and NEWP. Bear runs for cover ............. > >

Ha!.....Speaking of Basements....

 

[Phil Do's fire.]

So your saying pellet type effects the heat exchange of the stove? I think thats a stretch unless you let excessive ash build on exchangers.

What I am stating pellet quality actually affects the actual convection air temp of the stove. When I use a premium pellet the flame color that is at the base of the firepot is blue-white and a right white to the flame tips. Flame color is an indication of heat range. Orange- white flame color is a much cooler burn and results in lower convection air temp.

A perfect example is u can't cut through a piece of steel with a propane torch but you can with an oxy - acetiline one

 

[Phil Do's fire.]

Set's are in no category with garbage green supreme!!

I second that

 

[jlupi]

What I am stating pellet quality actually affects the actual convection air temp of the stove.

agreed, however the hotter the pellet the hotter the flue temps, stove temp (radiant heat), and convection temp. the stove is not going to extract a greater percentage of heat from any pellet and direct it to only convection.

 

[ghandy131]

First year with GS. Last year I used FS Ultras and Turmans. Liked them both. This year tried some GS from HD and they seemed to burn well at a setting of 4 or 5, so I bought 4 ton. As the weather got colder and the setting increased to 7 and 8 I started fighting clinkers, ash, low heat, over filling pot - just a mess. I fought with these through 15 - 20 bags and then tried changing the AOT (third button) on the stove. WOW, now I have a favorite pellet. I run the bottom three buttons on 1-5-3 and the heat range at any level and get great heat, clean burn, a little sooty glass and I don't need to clean the stove but for every week or two running constantly at 6 - 9 heat range (12 - 20 bags). The cleaning is due to the ash bin will tend to fill up at that point. Ran 10 bags of my left over Turmans last week when the temp dropped and they did NOT perform as well as the GS.

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

First year with GS. Last year I used FS Ultras and Turmans. Liked them both. This year tried some GS from HD and they seemed to burn well at a setting of 4 or 5, so I bought 4 ton. As the weather got colder and the setting increased to 7 and 8 I started fighting clinkers, ash, low heat, over filling pot - just a mess. I fought with these through 15 - 20 bags and then tried changing the AOT (third button) on the stove. WOW, now I have a favorite pellet. I run the bottom three buttons on 1-5-3 and the heat range at any level and get great heat, clean burn, a little sooty glass and I don't need to clean the stove but for every week or two running constantly at 6 - 9 heat range (12 - 20 bags). The cleaning is due to the ash bin will tend to fill up at that point. Ran 10 bags of my left over Turmans last week when the temp dropped and they did NOT perform as well as the GS.

There is definitely something to be said for knowing you stove and fine tuning the burn.....nice to hear you have good results.

 

[Phil Do's fire.]

agreed, however the hotter the pellet the hotter the flue temps, stove temp (radiant heat), and convection temp. the stove is not going to extract a greater percentage of heat from any pellet and direct it to only convection.

Really?? I suggest you check out my post concerning stove efficiency. I have an Italian made high efficiency stove with dual cast iron heat exchanger's and a burn pot that re- ignites the gas emitted by the pellets.Please note the Exhaust temp in pic's 6 - 10

https://www.hearth.com/talk/conversations/palazzetti-ecofire-owners-review.3611/

https://www.hearth.com/talk/conversations/palazzetti-owners-review-pics-1-5.3612/

https://www.hearth.com/talk/conversations/palazzetti-owners-review-pics-6-10.3613/

 

[Eatonpcat]

trust me J you are NOT alone . i got so sick and tired of the "if you don't burn somersets " crap that i quit this forum for almost 2 days it was getting really old .

You're not a very good quitter Woody (almost 2 days)!!

Just for the record...Somerset's burn HOT...Green Supreme's make a nice set of stairs if I remember correctly!

 

[jlupi]

Really?? I suggest you check out my post concerning stove efficiency. I have an Italian made high efficiency stove with dual cast iron heat exchanger's and a burn pot that re- ignites the gas emitted by the pellets.Please note the Exhaust temp in pic's 6 - 10

I cant view the pics my monitor is fading.
You have an advanced pellet stove but I still cant see how the exchange system will take a greater % of heat from the hotter pellet to the point that the exaust is colder than that of a cooler burning pellet regardless of what its made of. I would think the secondary ignition feature would actually work better w a poor pellet than a clean burning one.

 

[Phil Do's fire.]

I cant view the pics my monitor is fading.
You have an advanced pellet stove but I still cant see how the exchange system will take a greater % of heat from the hotter pellet to the point that the exaust is colder than that of a cooler burning pellet regardless of what its made of. I would think the secondary ignition feature would actually work better w a poor pellet than a clean burning one.

Iron is a great collector of heat and heat exchanger area dictates how much heat is retained by the stove