Replacing an aging Soap Stone II stove

[charly]

HehHeh . . . I don't know if I would call the Fireview a "plain Jane" stove Charley . . . if anything is quite ornate . . . simple to use I am sure . . . but far, far from being a plain Jane steel box of a woodstove to be sure. For me, the Fireview looks was always the turn off as it would be far, far too fancy for my humble home . . . now if I had a Victorian perhaps. . . .

Well just trying to say it's a very uncomplicated stove layout, end user friendly,, It fit in here so well, I forgot how ornate it really is . The wife even was hesitant about how ornate it looked at first,,, but once she saw how nice it was in person, she liked the stove as well.

 

[Rich L]

A large majority of you are pro Woodstock. I've really only dealt with HearthStone to this point. Are the Woodstock supporters more vocal? Or is there something wrong with the HearthStone product?


When I go to the WoodStock site, I don't see on either the Fireview or the Progress Hybrid where you control the air from. Unfortunately they don't offer a 360 degree view. Although I could be looking at it, and just don't see it in the picture.


Thanks for all of your help.


Skrebel33

Regardless of what's being said about the Fireview do not get that stove for your layout.You have a difficult 2000 sq.ft to heat and woodstock says its only good for up to 1500 sq.ft. I sent mine back because it was too small for my space which is about the same square footage as your home.I'm puzzled as to why folks would want to steer you in that direction when they know the stove is not built to heat that much space.

 

[skrebel33]

Regardless of what's being said about the Fireview do not get that stove for your layout.You have a difficult 2000 sq.ft to heat and woodstock says its only good for up to 1500 sq.ft. I sent mine back because it was too small for my space which is about the same square footage as your home.I'm puzzled as to why folks would want to steer you in that direction when they know the stove is not built to heat that much space.

Rich

Thanks for the comment, but if you look at my hack job of a layout, I'll not be heating 2000 sq.ft. More than likely I'll be happy to get the family room, one bedroom on the second floor and the third floor. For the rest of the house, I will be putting a wood stove on the first floor. That wood stove would heat the downstairs and the other end of the second floor. Between the two I could rely on wood to heat my whole home.

Oh to dream of an open floor plan with one wood stove heating the whole house.


Skrebel33

 

[Dairyman]

Do you think that the H II is sized right for your needs?

 

[skrebel33]

Do you think that the H II is sized right for your needs?

That is a good question. From my conversation with the sales rep on the phone, it should meet my needs. My though here is that the Heritage is of comparable size as the older Soap Stone II. Keep in mind the Heritage is using newer burning techniques which should provide for a much more efficient burn. Which tells me it should meet my needs.

When I started to look at replacing my current wood stove, I thought I'd be better off going with a steel/cast iron combo. That is why my original post had the Country and the Jotul options. However; the more I look at it, stone is the way to go. I've always enjoyed the soft warmth of the stone. As far as looks go, I'm don't really care. If it's throwing the heat I need in the room, then I could careless what it looks like. Soap stone stoves are more expensive, but I'd agree with most that the additional cost is worth it.

 

[Dairyman]

If your planning on running 2 stoves burn times will be an important factor. I would go with a fireview or a BK sirocco 20 to replace the H II. Then put a Mansfield or progress downstairs and heat that place.

 

[ditchrider]

A large majority of you are pro Woodstock. I've really only dealt with HearthStone to this point. Are the Woodstock supporters more vocal? Or is there something wrong with the HearthStone product?


When I go to the WoodStock site, I don't see on either the Fireview or the Progress Hybrid where you control the air from. Unfortunately they don't offer a 360 degree view. Although I could be looking at it, and just don't see it in the picture.


Thanks for all of your help.


Skrebel33

I enjoy my mansfield, and would recommend a mans for you as well. But I bought mine before I got hooked on Hearth. Today, I would seriously look at Woodstock. Online purchase of a wood stove would have worried me at one time, however with the reviews I've seen here, if I were to step back in time I would have given Woodstock a call and at least done some research.

Money back guarantee? How can you go wrong with that from what you read on Hearth.com? Watch their YouTubes. Its better than an episode of jackass. If you are a real wood burner.

 

[ditchrider]

That is a good question. From my conversation with the sales rep on the phone, it should meet my needs. My though here is that the Heritage is of comparable size as the older Soap Stone II. Keep in mind the Heritage is using newer burning techniques which should provide for a much more efficient burn. Which tells me it should meet my needs.

When I started to look at replacing my current wood stove, I thought I'd be better off going with a steel/cast iron combo. That is why my original post had the Country and the Jotul options. However; the more I look at it, stone is the way to go. I've always enjoyed the soft warmth of the stone. As far as looks go, I'm don't really care. If it's throwing the heat I need in the room, then I could careless what it looks like. Soap stone stoves are more expensive, but I'd agree with most that the additional cost is worth it.

When you say comparable size, is that by square footage rating of the manufacturer or the firebox size? It's an important question.

 

[Stella]

I don't know anything about the stoves mentioned because we don't have them in Greece but I did a little look around the net and found the following on Youtube

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They look very attractive and my plain black Supra Mulhouse stove is jealous!

 

[firefighterjake]

Well just trying to say it's a very uncomplicated stove layout, end user friendly,, It fit in here so well, I forgot how ornate it really is . The wife even was hesitant about how ornate it looked at first,,, but once she saw how nice it was in person, she liked the stove as well.

I thought that might be what you were saying . . . the ease of operation . . . it's just seeing "plain Jane" and "Fireview" together is rarely seen as it truly is a work of art.

 

[skrebel33]

When you say comparable size, is that by square footage rating of the manufacturer or the firebox size? It's an important question.

Firebox size as well as square footage rating. At least when the Soap Stone was new.

 

[charly]

I thought that might be what you were saying . . . the ease of operation . . . it's just seeing "plain Jane" and "Fireview" together is rarely seen as it truly is a work of art.

Whoops

 

[Rich L]

Rich

Thanks for the comment, but if you look at my hack job of a layout, I'll not be heating 2000 sq.ft. More than likely I'll be happy to get the family room, one bedroom on the second floor and the third floor. For the rest of the house, I will be putting a wood stove on the first floor. That wood stove would heat the downstairs and the other end of the second floor. Between the two I could rely on wood to heat my whole home.

Oh to dream of an open floor plan with one wood stove heating the whole house.


Skrebel33

Oh I didn't hear you mention using two stoves.With two stoves burning your options a many.My Liberty is heating the second and third floors and the Mansfield is heating the cellar and first floor.

 

[skrebel33]

Oh I didn't hear you mention using two stoves.With two stoves burning your options a many.My Liberty is heating the second and third floors and the Mansfield is heating the cellar and first floor.

I only mentioned the second as that is my final plan. It will be a year before I have both in place. The first floor will need to be piped in as the existing chimney already has the oil fired furnace and oil fired hot water heater. Putting the wood stove on the first floor is an option, but will almost eliminate my use of oil. The only thing I'll need oil for is my hot water. The family room is a necessity.


Thanks

Skrebel33

 

[Rich L]

I only mentioned the second as that is my final plan. It will be a year before I have both in place. The first floor will need to be piped in as the existing chimney already has the oil fired furnace and oil fired hot water heater. Putting the wood stove on the first floor is an option, but will almost eliminate my use of oil. The only thing I'll need oil for is my hot water. The family room is a necessity.


Thanks

Skrebel33

Man I was feeling for you when in your first post you stated that you only had the stove as your only source of heat.Now it comes to light that you do have oil ?Did you know that the Hearthstone II was designed to burn coal as well as wood? I ask again did you try to burn coal ?Coal gives more heat and longer burn times.

 

[skrebel33]

Man I was feeling for you when in your first post you stated that you only had the stove as your only source of heat.Now it comes to light that you do have oil ?Did you know that the Hearthstone II was designed to burn coal as well as wood? I ask again did you try to burn coal ?Coal gives more heat and longer burn times.

The main body of the house is heated with an oil forced hot air system. The family room was an addition in the 70's that could not be tied into the forced hot air system. As a result, the only heat that the family gets is from the wood stove. My mom heated the family room with a propane hot air furnace. That ran her around 8-900/year. Even with two cords of wood it's much cheaper to heat with wood in the family room. Hopefully that helps clear up some of the confusion.

Never tried coal. Honestly not interested in burning coal. Starting this winter I'll be getting my own wood which will drive the cost down. Plus the manual labor is good for the soul.


Thanks everyone for working with me on this.


Skrebel33

 

[Rich L]

The main body of the house is heated with an oil forced hot air system. The family room was an addition in the 70's that could not be tied into the forced hot air system. As a result, the only heat that the family gets is from the wood stove. My mom heated the family room with a propane hot air furnace. That ran her around 8-900/year. Even with two cords of wood it's much cheaper to heat with wood in the family room. Hopefully that helps clear up some of the confusion.

Never tried coal. Honestly not interested in burning coal. Starting this winter I'll be getting my own wood which will drive the cost down. Plus the manual labor is good for the soul.


Thanks everyone for working with me on this.


Skrebel33

Thanks for the clarity.Let us know of your decision.

 

[Bub381]

I disagree with Jake,i think it would look good in his kind of home.It does in this 1