No doubt that the broken glass should be fixed so the stove is air tight and safe. The air wash deflector is only going to hurt performance. People have been heating their home by burning wood in a metal box without all the fancy air wash for years. That stove will keep her warm and safe if the damage is just to an internal baffle.
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The baffle in the PE is unique. It also houses the secondary supply and distribution. If running this stove hard has also popped welds she would have an uncontrollable stove. I'm not willing to advise anyone to burn in a stove in that circumstance.
It is not the primary fire barrier in the stove. It will heat safely with the hole in the baffle.
Jan Pijpelink
Minister of Fire
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She is a single mother with a child. Safety first. If she has any money left of the original 1100 she was planning to pay for the stove, she should check out the link above for a new Drolet or a used stove.
She is a single mother with a child. Safety first. If she has any money left of the original 1100 she was planning to pay for the stove, she should check out the link above for a new Drolet or a used stove.
Yes, with new parts I can see this repair approaching $1000cdn. Given the stove's history, if it were me I would instead consider getting the Drolet and selling the PE as is for parts at a loss.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
@LouCammie, what is your situation, re: chimney. Do you have chimney and stovepipe ready to safely connect a stove, whether this or another? Do you have a hearth ready upon which to sit this stove?
Also, what is your firewood situation?
We need to find the cheapest safe way to get heat running in your house, now. That may or may not involve this stove.
Also, what is your firewood situation?
We need to find the cheapest safe way to get heat running in your house, now. That may or may not involve this stove.
they took the shirt right off my back too haha. So far even the ones I trust have let me down. I have someone from a metalworks/welding shop coming to look at it to see if the airwash can be repaired
Squisher
Minister of Fire
.if you look new drolet is a quality stove as are the englanders which are sold as 'timber ridge' in Canada available at Canadian tire.
I would back up Begreens comments that until someone qualified has looked at this stove or more info/pics are posted it wouldn't be prudent to recommend just hooking it up and burning it. I clean a lot of PE appliances in a year and that damage in the one pic you posted is significant. Further verification of the stoves condition should be undertaken before using it. A cold house beats no house, any day.
I would back up Begreens comments that until someone qualified has looked at this stove or more info/pics are posted it wouldn't be prudent to recommend just hooking it up and burning it. I clean a lot of PE appliances in a year and that damage in the one pic you posted is significant. Further verification of the stoves condition should be undertaken before using it. A cold house beats no house, any day.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
@LouCammie, please answer these questions, it will dictate how we can help you:
1. Do you have chimney and stovepipe ready to safely connect a stove, whether this or another?
2. Do you have a hearth ready upon which to sit this stove? Can you give us details?
3. What is your firewood situation?
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Don't forget to ask him if he can weld a patch over the hole and the area where the glass goes if worse comes to worse.
I wouldn't do that. I run the stove visually most of the time. It would be a shame to lose that, especially when trying to judge reliability and safety after the fix. It would also drop stove value big time if this stove is savable.
I am replacing everything that needs replacing including the baffle. The airwash system has a hole-the PE function safely and efficiantly with the hole in the airwash-I will have t repaired other wise but its getting expensive
I am replacing the glass. the baffle and the bricks and anything that needs replaing-the weldig of the airwash hole, if it is a safety hazard I will have repaired-if it isnt an issue then I will leave it
Unless a weld on the stove body is comprised. We havnt seen pics of the whole stove yet advising to just burn it is irresponsible.
I am sure it can be fixed. We have cut out and then bolted plates over holes in that location in the past. If that is the only damage to the stove body it would not be a safety issue but the stove will not work right at all.
Yes, it's hard to say without seeing ore pictures of the interior of the stove how badly compromised the deflector is. If it is damaged in just this area then I'd get a scrap of 20ga stainless steel cut it roughly to size to amply cover the hole and extend to the right side with a generous overlap on good metal. Then I would roll it to match the deflector curve, trim to fit, drill 1/8" holes and then pop rivet it to the solid metal of the deflector using stainless steel pop rivets.
@LouCammie It's good that you want to do proper repairs. Did you call Tom at chimneysweeponline.com? He is probably the oldest PE dealer in the business and has seen it all. You can trust his judgement. He'll likely want more pictures, just like us, in order to make an assessment of options.
Oh Ms LouCammie it sounded as if the glass retainers were trash.Ya if you can replace the glass good idea.My suggestion was only for a situation where all that you just stated were unaffordable and to keep from freezing.Since your able to replace so many parts disregard my suggestions.Sounds like you'll be in the heat soon.Take care.
I clearly said in a previous post, if the damage is just the baffle then only performance will suffer and it would be safe to use. I stand by that comment and also support the idea of getting someone to look over the stove for integrity. As suggested, a small piece of stainless sheet and an hour of time could repair it. It sounds like she is going to have someone take care of it
Without the baffle there would be a wide open secondary manifold in the rear of the stove. It would definitely be unsafe to operate without the baffle.
Ashful
Minister of Fire
Guys, let’s stay focused on the issue at hand. I want to know if she has a safe environment in which to install a stove, and the means to do it (hearth, chimney, fuel). The rest is rather simply remedied.
LouCammie, please do not move forward with these repairs, until you have answered these three questions.
LouCammie, please do not move forward with these repairs, until you have answered these three questions.
There's not much point in continuing the discussion other than for the sake of conversation honestly. So just for the sake of conversation, the stove is constructed with a flame shield made of 304 stainless above the baffle to protect the heavy plate top from flame impingement damage. The air wash deflector is just a deflector, not a flame shield.
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