Oil Indirect DHW - Cost Analysis Help

[Ashful]

Wow... I guess what I had seen was maybe not accurate. I don't remember specifically where I read that they only do minimal cooling and dehumidification, although in re-watching Redbarn's posted video, I see Tom in Maine also states it won't do much to cool his shop.

I sent an email to Nyle yesterday morning, to ask about my application. No reply yet, but will share when I hear something.

 

[STIHLY DAN]

My geo spring takes out a gallon or more a day from the basement, I do not get condensation on pipes. There is a huge humidity difference in a 1200 sq basement. When its 90* in the bedroom I will throw a sweatshirt on and sleep on the futon down there.

 

[velvetfoot]

This might put me over the edge and get me to try one.
How do you get rid of the condensate? Is there a built in pump? Tank that shuts the thing down if it gets full, like a dehumidifier?

 

[Redbarn]

My Geyser has a plastic tube from the bottom of the unit, under the heat exchanger radiator.
I just put it into a 3/4" PVC pipe and run it (downhill) to the basement drain.
In summer there is a considerable amount of water, much less in winter.

 

[Fred61]

I didn't have a convenient way to drain the condensate so I purchased a small condensate pump with reservoir and It pumps the water out through the rim joist in to the flower bed.

 

[SIERRADMAX]

These pumps are great.
http://www.amazon.com/Little-Giant-VCMA-15ULS-Condensate-horsepower/dp/B000AHT78O

 

[Fred61]

That's the one I bought!

 

[Ashful]

Still no reply from Nyle...

 

[Redbarn]

I bought mine from Tom in Maine. He has great contacts with Nyle (both are in Maine). Perhaps a PM to Tom might get an answer ?

 

[Ashful]

Good idea. I'll give him a try. Thanks!

 

[BoilerMan]

and tend to shy away from DIY type appliances when it comes to plumbing, as they never seem to have a great track record in the long-haul. I think we're probably only two or three decades out from learning PEX is the next polybutylene, or finally discovering the health effects of having your drinking water indefinitely soaking in polyethelene tubing.

Couldn't agree more with this statement. Most do not remember PB and Shell's mess. PEX, however has a proven track record in the heating application, I will bury it in a slab w/o hesitation, but it's all copper from there call me old school, heard headed........time will tell, and I may very well be wrong but that's not a chance I'm willing to take in my own home. All copper here!

There is, however, no reason that anything that has pipe threads can not be piped in copper if you so desire. My Nyletherm (first gen Geyser) has 1/2" FNPT, and it's suspended from the ceiling with unistrut and threaded rod with copper to the tank about 15' away. Ducted it into the rooms above the mechanical room.

TS

 

[lostDuck]

So does anyone no if GE Hybrid hot water heater at Lowes in CT is 599 out the door or 199 (with instant rebate)?
Going to the store later this week and wanted to know what others paid in CT.

Thanks
-LostDuck

 

[velvetfoot]

Couldn't agree more with this statement. Most do not remember PB and Shell's mess. PEX, however has a proven track record in the heating application, I will bury it in a slab w/o hesitation, but it's all copper from there call me old school, heard headed........time will tell, and I may very well be wrong but that's not a chance I'm willing to take in my own home. All copper here!

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I seem to recall cross-linked poly. direct buried distribution cable being vulnerable to 'treeing', where moisture makes its way to the conductor and causes a fault.

 

[mchasal]

So does anyone no if GE Hybrid hot water heater at Lowes in CT is 599 out the door or 199 (with instant rebate)?
Going to the store later this week and wanted to know what others paid in CT.

Thanks
-LostDuck

I don't really know, but I'm looking forward to an answer as well. I'm considering driving the couple of hours from NY to pick one up in CT for that savings.
As a point of info, it looks like when you place it in your cart online, it reflects the $599 price without any sort of confirmation on residency or who your power provider is. It also lists the instant rebate under the "plus up to $400 in rebates". So, I'm thinking that it's $199 total if you are eligible for that instant rebate. I guess that would mean there's some sort of statewide incentive that the seller gets in addition to that instant rebate.

 

[BoilerMan]

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I seem to recall cross-linked poly. direct buried distribution cable being vulnerable to 'treeing', where moisture makes its way to the conductor and causes a fault.

You are correct. That is why I have an overhead electrical service. As an electrician, I've repaired way too many underground electrical services, both in conduit and direct burial. 30 years seems to be the max life in our area.

TS

 

[tom in maine]

A couple comments on this thread.
You can use a condensate pump to eliminate condensate. I have my Nyletherm on two cinderblocks. The condensate drain is coupled to a piece of garden hose that goes half way around the perimeter of my basement to the floor drain.
This works fine. If I did not have a floor drain, I would use a pump.
I have another unit in my shop that is on a workbench. It only operates when I am at work since there is no demand when we are not open.
That one drains into a bucket. Maybe someday I will pump it. Probably not.

Relying on a HPWH for dehumidification seems to fit pretty well with an average household (whatever that is).
Most people I know are satisfied with the diminished humidity.