Running the stove with the window open? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a wood stove?Your chimney setup sounds like it should be ok from your description. Have you tried cracking a window or door to see if that helps the problem?
Running the stove with the window open? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a wood stove?Your chimney setup sounds like it should be ok from your description. Have you tried cracking a window or door to see if that helps the problem?
Thanks for the description. That's exactly what it seems like. When the explosion comes, it then pushes exhaust out through the seam between the collar and the stove and between the collar and the stove pipe. But that's not the only source of the leak.That is exactly what "backpuffing" is. To much fuel (smoke) with too little oxygen to ignite it. Finally, it will pull in air from wherever it can (even down the stack) and the ignition is akin to a small explosion. Like lighting gas poured onto a bonfire.
I am not talking about leaving it open as a final solution just as a diagnostic tool to see if the stove is starving for air. Also what side of the house is the oak inlet on? If it is away from the wind it can cause a negative pressure in the oak.Running the stove with the window open? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a wood stove?
There are quite a few threads about "backpuffing" already. The stove accumulates too much volatile gases in the firebox which is starved for oxygen. Once it hits air in conjunction with the hot catalyst it will set off an explosion-like rapid combustion. Since that is too much to go out through your cat into the flue, the pressure may push out some of the smoke through the air inlet and maybe gaskets if those are not quite tight. Giving the fire more air should stop that backpuffing.
Do you have an idea what the cat and flue temps are when you notice the smoke smell?
I am not talking about leaving it open as a final solution just as a diagnostic tool to see if the stove is starving for air. Also what side of the house is the oak inlet on? If it is away from the wind it can cause a negative pressure in the oak.
How does one measure draft?Sounds like you need the draft measured to start with.
With a manometer your installer should have one.How does one measure draft?
and where does the prevailing wind come from?Okay, makes sense. The air inlet is right under the stove, which is on the backside of the house (thus surrounded on all sides by trees and the house itself). The rear of the house faces west and a bit south.
Your chimney setup sounds like it should be ok from your description. Have you tried cracking a window or door to see if that helps the problem?
If the stove is starving for air it could help even with the oak hooked up. You could also try unhooking the oak and see how it runs like that.How would that help?
It seems to come from the other side of the house (either north or east or some combination). Plus the yard sits in a negative pressure zone, surrounded by house and trees.With a manometer your installer should have one.
and where does the prevailing wind come from?
Interesting idea. Not sure I would pull off the pipe myself but something to run by the dealer. If the problem is draft, and the chimney can't go up any higher, what does one do? The draft is way better than before they raised the stack but we're still getting smoke. Perhaps less; I'm not sure.If the stove is starving for air it could help even with the oak hooked up. You could also try unhooking the oak and see how it runs like that.
Yeah stack effect could be causing the issue for sure but a good oak should resolve that. I have a feeling it is a combination of issues.If your stove is in a single story addition to an older house your house may be a better chimney than your chimney!! If the addition is more airtight than the original house the two storys of leakier house may be letting an awful lot of air out, especially on a windy day.
I don't know. We don't have a probe on the flue.What are your normal flue temps?
You need to get one that would help you pinpoint when the problem is occuringI don't know. We don't have a probe on the flue.
I don't know. We don't have a probe on the flue.
If you get it working right the chimney should be under a vacuum and no smoke will come out. What other holes do you have?Would give us another hole through which smoke could come.
Yeah, well, getting it right; that's the thing, isn't it? The other hole is the probe in the top of the stove that measures when we're in range to engage the catalytic combustor.If you get it working right the chimney should be under a vacuum and no smoke will come out. What other holes do you have?
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