It's probably been said before and a might be a bit off topic, but I'll use pine shavings for tinder from a local mill down the road and it really works a lot better than newspaper. Granted the folks at this mill give it out for free, but we've bought them bagged at the farm supply when in a pinch for bedding for nest boxes and it's still inexpensive enough for a cheap and effective fire starter. I'd think it would work well as a top down tinder as well.