Install Questions

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Getting ready to install this 1400 in my up north man cave. I stripped and repainted the stove. It came with about a 5.5 foot peice of double wall pipe that telescopes. This telescope pipe will not reach my 10 foot ceiling. Can I come out of the stove with single wall then switch to double wall stove pipe up to the class A? There are no clearance problems with the single wall, I just want to save money and reuse parts that I have. Only paid $250 for the stove and double wall pipe...
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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,281
Indiana
No you cannot. Since you got such a deal, buying a section of double wall should be affordable. What brand is it?
 
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Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
No idea what brand it is, definitely older but still in good shape. Is there a way to figure out the brand?

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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,281
Indiana
No idea what brand it is, definitely older but still in good shape. Is there a way to figure out the brand?

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Most double wall has a label on it. A picture would probably be recognizable by someone.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Most double wall has a label on it. A picture would probably be recognizable by someone.
I can look closer tomorrow. Is there any explanation as to why you "cannot" do this? Just curious why?

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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,281
Indiana
I can look closer tomorrow. Is there any explanation as to why you "cannot" do this? Just curious why?

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Primarily because it’s a system that’s tested to be safe with their connections and clearances. I know you don’t care about clearances in this situation, but that’s how it’s tested. When you add other components to it now no one will stand behind it if you have a problem. Then you are presented with the problem with attaching this apparatus together, adding single wall to a double wall system shouldn’t be done and won’t be secure.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Primarily because it’s a system that’s tested to be safe with their connections and clearances. I know you don’t care about clearances in this situation, but that’s how it’s tested. When you add other components to it now no one will stand behind it if you have a problem. Then you are presented with the problem with attaching this apparatus together, adding single wall to a double wall system shouldn’t be done and won’t be secure.
Thanks this makes sense. I will probably just go single wall all the way and either recycle or save the double wall for a different project.

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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,281
Indiana
Sad to say, but you’d be better off with all single wall as long as it meets the 18” clearance requirements than mixing single wall into a double wall system.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
So than the next question would be if I have a straight run of single wall do I need a telescoping section or can I slide it up the upper class A adapter enough to clear the stove collar insert and push it back down to complete the system with no telescoping peice?

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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,281
Indiana
Always add a telescoping piece. You’ll thank me later.
 

Ludlow

Minister of Fire
Jun 4, 2018
1,082
PA
can I slide it up the upper class A adapter enough to clear the stove collar insert and push it back down to complete the system with no telescoping peice?

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Exactly what I did. The overlap was still double the overlap of singlewall joints.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
Staff member
Jan 14, 2014
18,644
central pa
So than the next question would be if I have a straight run of single wall do I need a telescoping section or can I slide it up the upper class A adapter enough to clear the stove collar insert and push it back down to complete the system with no telescoping peice?

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Get a slip section. They don't cost much and if you ever have to pull the pipe you will be happy. To me only having the top and bottom joint seated halfway is not acceptable.
 

Ludlow

Minister of Fire
Jun 4, 2018
1,082
PA
Get a slip section. They don't cost much and if you ever have to pull the pipe you will be happy. To me only having the top and bottom joint seated halfway is not acceptable.
What is seated halfway? The bottom is seated fully and the overlap on the class A adapter is double the overlap of single wall joints. It can be a bit of a bugger to get the pipe in there because of the angle but it worked well for me. A slip is like 20 bucks so it can be worth it just for the easy factor.
 

Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
I bought the single wall pipe today, decided to go that route. The price was was pretty low and it will be done to code and meet all clearances.

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Mike M.

Feeling the Heat
Mar 18, 2012
295
Green Bay, WI
Had the stove setup for a few weeks now, works awesome. Finally got the time to post a picture today. Was supposed to be out riding ATVs but its cold and rainy although that usually doesn't stop me...
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