lordgrinz said:
Greg M said:
Sorry but you live in a country that became great because enough men didn't think about themselves first.
You are kidding yourself if you believe that, they absolutely thought of themselves first. They rebelled against government authority, against taxes(money), today when we think like this we are somehow criminals. You believe we should spend more money because it would be better for everyone? I wonder how these men would feel about King George telling them they had to spend more for goods for the betterment of everyone.
Wealthy men risked their lives for freedom. The easier thing for them would have been to just live in peace and enjoy their wealth. Obviously you haven't read the Declaration of Independence.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
These men that you label as self serving saw it as their duty to provide for future security and they risked their money and their lives in order to fulfill that duty. Taxes was just one of many reasons listed.
"And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."
That statement doesn't sound selfish to me. I'm not saying people that always put self first are criminals, I'm just saying that when all we do is think of ourself then we're selfish. I'm seeing the need to think of the future that I'm going to leave behind for those that come after me. I'm thankful for what previous generations left for me to enjoy (talking about our country).