Help me pick a 60cc saw!

[jetsam]

I'm pretty sure I see a blue decompression button in the first picture. No?

Well, I read your post and said "Of course there's not, I looked everywhere", followed by "Well, what was HE talking about then?", followed by, "Oh, there it is!", followed by, "Sure would be embarrassing if a bunch of people on the internet found out I couldn't spot a large blue button on an orange background..."

 

[jetsam]

please let me know your overall experience with Chainsawsdirect.com (i.e. packaging good, good experience, customer service although I doubt you have much experience in that respect at this point, etc.)

They charged me $580, no tax or shipping. I ordered Saturday night, they Fedexed it monday, got it Wednesday. It was shipped in the dolmar box, no overpack or padding (Dolmar also has zero padding in the box), but seems to have arrived in one piece. I didn't interact with anyone there. My only annoyance with the transaction was that they didn't stock the yellow semichisel chain I wanted, but I got it fast and cheap from Amazon, so that worked out.

I guess they could have packaged it better, but hey, it's a chainsaw. It was probably bouncing around in the truck breaking everyone else's stuff. 8)

Working during daylight hours tomorrow, so I won't have anything to say about how it cuts until Friday.

 

[Dairyman]

There great saws. Enjoy!

Well, I read your post and said "Of course there's not, I looked everywhere", followed by "Well, what was HE talking about then?", followed by, "Oh, there it is!", followed by, "Sure would be embarrassing if a bunch of people on the internet found out I couldn't spot a large blue button on an orange background..."

Black background.... [emoji6]

 

[jetsam]

Black background.... [emoji6]

.... Oh my. :/

I am not sure whether to laugh at myself or go to the hospital at this point.

 

[KenLockett]

They charged me $580, no tax or shipping. I ordered Saturday night, they Fedexed it monday, got it Wednesday. It was shipped in the dolmar box, no overpack or padding (Dolmar also has zero padding in the box), but seems to have arrived in one piece. I didn't interact with anyone there. My only annoyance with the transaction was that they didn't stock the yellow semichisel chain I wanted, but I got it fast and cheap from Amazon, so that worked out.

I guess they could have packaged it better, but hey, it's a chainsaw. It was probably bouncing around in the truck breaking everyone else's stuff. 8)

Working during daylight hours tomorrow, so I won't have anything to say about how it cuts until Friday.

I'm a bit surprised a professional level saw is not supplied with a full chisel chain.

 

[woodhog73]

I'm a bit surprised a professional level saw is not supplied with a full chisel chain.

Just remember if it has the extra bumper link that does not mean it's a safety chain or a semi chisel. Example is Oregon LPX in .325 size. It's got the extra bumper link but is not safety chain, is marketed as full chisel high kick back chain, and is a competitive choice to a stihls Rapid Super .325 which is their yellow non bumper link chain. The extra bumper link say in the case of Oregon LPX is for anti vibe purposes. But lots of people assume it's for kick back. Not always the case. That's why I run Oregons .325 over Stihls.325 it's a smoother cutting chain in my opinion but I've had people ask why I'm using safety chain ? It's not it's full chisel and cuts very well on green wood. It just has raised anti vibe bumpers which often get confused for low kick back.

You have to look at the bumper links as they round the tip to determine if it's low kick back ( or examine the box it came in)

That said with online saw sales I'm sure it's just for liability reasons. They probably sell all their saws with low kick back chains. I'm not sure the size cut off in displacement but the saw is 64cc and it also may be a requirement to sell it with safety chain.

Eitherway awesome saw. German engineering and construction, built to last , and several hundred dollars less than other well known saws ! Awesome enjoy the new saw

 

[Wildo]

Damn! They changed the dawgs to an even better/ meaner looking version.

 

[jetsam]

Well, you guys will know better than me about the chain. I figured that huge depth gauge was a low kickback dealie. Here's a closeup of what shipped with the saw.

New chain:

 

[Clyde S. Dale]

Damn! They changed the dawgs to an even better/ meaner looking version.

Nope, those are the stock bumper spikes. While they do look cool, they takeaway 1-2" of bar length so I'm not a big fan. There is a "European" version that are smaller, but not sure how to go about getting those. I found the part numbers but my dealer could not order them.

 

[Dairyman]

Well, you guys will know better than me about the chain. I figured that huge depth gauge was a low kickback dealie. Here's a closeup of what shipped with the saw.

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New chain:

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Your safety chain is Oregon vanguard. Give it a wirl. You might like it...or not.

(broken link removed to https://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/products/chain/72_73_75VChain.htm)

 

[TreePointer]

Nope, those are the stock bumper spikes. While they do look cool, they takeaway 1-2" of bar length so I'm not a big fan. There is a "European" version that are smaller, but not sure how to go about getting those. I found the part numbers but my dealer could not order them.

Yeah, that's why my small bar for that saw is 24" and not a 20".

 

[jetsam]

Well, no big oak videos for you.

The oiler doesn't oil. It looks like it's connected but I got nothing coming out even when I run the saw without a bar.

Any ideas?

A few drops of bar oil did get splashed out but it doesn't look like it came from the oiler port, which is oil-free.

Edit:
I've started it and run it with no bar a few times on different oiler settings, not one drop so far.

Not sure where the drops that got on the chain came from.

 

[woodhog73]

Are you just idling the saw ? Or are you revving it at full rpm ? It's only going to oil when the clutch is disengaged and spinning.

 

[jetsam]

Are you just idling the saw ? Or are you revving it at full rpm ? It's only going to oil when the clutch is disengaged and spinning.

Full throttle, no bar, bar cover off.

I found a service manual. I am not sure if I should fix it or return it. Not thrilled with the prospect of figuring out how to get the clutch off without the clutch removal tool, but it looks doable.

 

[Mike M.]

Sounds like it missed the quality inspection area. Who knows what other problems it may have. My vote - return. Call Baileys and order a orange saw...lol

 

[TreePointer]

Just to cover the easy one...

Is the oiler adjustment screw turned to MAX?

 

[jetsam]

Just to cover the easy one...

Is the oiler adjustment screw turned to MAX?

Yep. Tried it on max, min, 50%, and once tried adjusting it all the way up and down at full throttle.

Even if I turn the saw sideways for gravity assist I don't get a drop of oil.

Maybe part of the oil pump is missing.

 

[jetsam]

Just ran it for another few minutes after noticing that the oiler tube had oil in it. Rechecked oil tank (full), pulled the oiler tube free of its channel and observed that the tube was also full of oil. Checked it for kinks and ran the saw full throttle some more. Not a drop of oil on the snow.

Thinking that I will just send the saw back at this point, unless Chainsawsdirect.com wants to mail me tools and parts. I don't want to go through all the work of disassembling it without the right tools and diagnosing the problem if the answer from them is just going to be 'send it back' anyway.

You can SEE the bar oil filling the oiler tube. How can it manage not to spill a single drop when running?

 

[woodhog73]

That sucks. Sounds like you might be best to send it back. Do you have a Dolmar dealer nearby ? Perhaps it's something minor or common and something a dealer is already familiar with and can take care of it or give you advice ?

 

[gregbesia]

Yep, that's german engineering for you. Probably graduated from the same schools VW guys went to. Should have got a husky.

 

[gregbesia]

On a serious note, that sucks. Hope you get this fix quick. Good luck.

 

[KenLockett]

Bummer. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[Dairyman]

That's unfortunate. Return it & get another. It could be a couple of things but you shouldn't have to mess with it.

 

[BlackGreyhounds]

My vote is for a Stihl MS361, I absolutely love mine. If I had to have only 1 saw, this would be it.

 

[woodhog73]

My vote is for a Stihl MS361, I absolutely love mine. If I had to have only 1 saw, this would be it.

The 361 is a great saw no doubt but he already bought the Dolmar which is 98 percent of the time ( or more probably) trouble free and also just as much of a great quality saw. In fact it's probably a much stouter construction than the 361 since it's built as a bigger saw and is the same chassis and bottom end as the much bigger Dolmar 7900, which is just under 80cc. The lower end on the 6400 has no problems if you bolt on the bigger cylinder and turn it into a 7900. It's built very well.

If you can locate a good clean used 361 at a fair price I agree it's a solid choice. But for a new saw in the price range that the OP wanted to be in I think the Dolmar was one of the best choices if not the best choice.

Jetsam I hope you get it sorted out. Just unlucky this saw didn't pass inspection. Nothing to do with Dolmars usual quality . Keep us posted how this turns out