Cumberland 3800 not heat up

[Bowhunter1]

UPDATE: Turned off the stove today to fire pot/holder. Every pellet burned with the fan running! It did not smoke the pellets out after like before. Took out fire pot, burn plate then took off 4 screws that holds the casing of firepot. Tons of ash under it, vacuumed all that out. Decided I would remove baffles, heat exchanger was very dirt (both were cleaned 2 weeks ago). Cleaned all that up including top. Checked every hole on fire plate and used drill bit to clean a few out better. Did the same thing for the burn pot (only 2 were clogged).
Decided to put it all back together but forgot to take picture of burn pot! Started it up and still had a lot of smoke in chamber again. Not sure what that is about (not windy). Stove is cranking out good heat again! Think the exhaust fan being so dirty was creating the low heat and making things super dirty (usually clean heat exchangers monthly). With the low heat stove was having issues knowing there were pellets in there.
Thanks so much for all your advice! If you know of a service tech in the Lansing, MI area please let me know! Obviously I need a new one.

You can do the cleaning yourself it doesnt take a lot of time:

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[Lake Girl]

Helpful video Do you use pellets or has anyone tried corn or pits? Curious on how well these handle the other fuels ...

What kinds of changes have been made between the different models?

 

[3650]

I've burned corn. It does a good job. I think the Mai differences between 3650 and 3800 are the controller being remote on the 3800 and it has a different type convection blower that is more powerful. It can also be hooked up to a furnace duct via an adapter. Unfortunately this isnt available fir the 3650. It's really a very good stove. I'm surprisd it didn't catch on and even more surprised its not being made anymore.

 

[Bioburner]

I seen one weak link in the 3800 in that it was not to be used as a corn stove(on thermostat) if you wanted to shut on and off that I seen. Needed bit better ignition system for the corn? Would like to get one and maybe replace the Elena.

 

[Michigan girl]

You can do the cleaning yourself it doesnt take a lot of time:

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Thank you for sharing! Wish I would of known about this video 3 years ago You are right, probably don't need anyone. Think you said you use the stove for all your heat. Have you ever had any problems while you were not at home? I mostly work from home, but am always a little nervous leaving on while gone for long periods. Also, I noticed hard ash/sut build up on inside of ash drawer. Any suggestions on what may take this off?

 

[Michigan girl]

Helpful video Do you use pellets or has anyone tried corn or pits? Curious on how well these handle the other fuels ...

What kinds of changes have been made between the different models?

I have only used wood pellets (Michigan Wood pellets). Never used corn or pits. Thanks for asking, would like to see replies!

 

[SidecarFlip]

I have only used wood pellets (Michigan Wood pellets). Never used corn or pits. Thanks for asking, would like to see replies!

While it's good to support an in state pellet extruder, Michigan pellets can vary in quality from bag to bag and skid to skid (depending on where they are getting feedstock from at that particular time. Simply put, they have no one source of feedstock it comes from everywhere and anywhere. There are more consistent choices out there.

 

[Michigan girl]

While it's good to support an in state pellet extruder, Michigan pellets can vary in quality from bag to bag and skid to skid (depending on where they are getting feedstock from at that particular time. Simply put, they have no one source of feedstock it comes from everywhere and anywhere. There are more consistent choices out there.

Thanks for input! From other brands I have tied, these seem to be the best. Can you recommend a better kind for me to look for?

 

[SidecarFlip]

Thanks for input! From other brands I have tied, these seem to be the best. Can you recommend a better kind for me to look for?

Well, you are in Lansing, not sure whch side (east or west) but there are numerous TSC's nearby that should have Lignetics, Indiana Hardwood or Somerset. I used MWF in the past years and found the quality inconsistent then. I think the Lowes on Grand River and I96 has Indiana Hardwood as well.

 

[SidecarFlip]

Don't waste you time with cherry pits, they burn fast, much quicker than wood pellets. Far as I('m concerned the pits can stay up north.

 

[Michigan girl]

Well, you are in Lansing, not sure whch side (east or west) but there are numerous TSC's nearby that should have Lignetics, Indiana Hardwood or Somerset. I used MWF in the past years and found the quality inconsistent then. I think the Lowes on Grand River and I96 has Indiana Hardwood as well.

I will have to look into these thanks! Sometimes buy at TSC. The last batch I bought was Indeck energy. That was when all my problems started, at first blamed the pellets. Will go there to see if they have what you recommended. BTW, do not let store in Grand Ledge do any work on stoves Huge store out there, think you may know of it since you seem familiar with area.

 

[SidecarFlip]

I will have to look into these thanks! Sometimes buy at TSC. The last batch I bought was Indeck energy. That was when all my problems started, at first blamed the pellets. Will go there to see if they have what you recommended. BTW, do not let store in Grand Ledge do any work on stoves Huge store out there, think you may know of it since you seem familiar with area.

I'm south of Lansing near Jackson but I'm there quite a bit. Pierce Engineering on Grand River builds my custom hunting rifles for me.

 

[Bowhunter1]

Helpful video Do you use pellets or has anyone tried corn or pits? Curious on how well these handle the other fuels ...

What kinds of changes have been made between the different models?

Ive burned a mix of corn and pellets, they burn well together. the stove itself is a really well made stove. no complaints on heating 1700 sqft. the controller from what i know is the difference in the two models, i can actually run mine on a 3700 mode (no igniter?) they are really easy to maintain. i (and dont laugh) bought mine for 1400.00 at Ocean state job lots hahaha on a whim.

 

[Bowhunter1]

Thank you for sharing! Wish I would of known about this video 3 years ago You are right, probably don't need anyone. Think you said you use the stove for all your heat. Have you ever had any problems while you were not at home? I mostly work from home, but am always a little nervous leaving on while gone for long periods. Also, I noticed hard ash/sut build up on inside of ash drawer. Any suggestions on what may take this off?

hahaha mines been running 24/7 since september of last year, no issues or worries while i am away, fire is in a steel box, no different than my oil burner! use a wire brush on the ash drawer it should scrape right off, but again, i think you are burning too low, use at least range 3, you will see a big difference in the ash itself. if your glass gets black in a few hours, your burning at too low a setting, this will vary with pellets, some of the lesser brands i burn at 4.

 

[SidecarFlip]

From the pictures, it is a nice looking stove.

 

[Bowhunter1]

From the pictures, it is a nice looking stove.

it is, but they discontinued them end of last year, probably why i got such a good deal 4 years ago. i spoke with Ardisam, they will support them for at least 10 years. originally made in Cumberland Wis, i guess thats where the name came from!

 

[SidecarFlip]

Like I said in a previoius post, everything I see branded Ardisam around here (tillers and power equipment) is oriental in manufacture. The great thing about most every stove is they all share the same mechanical components (ie:drives, vacuum switches, snap discs, room air fans) and usually, only the control boards and the CA fans are unique to each unit, so parts replacement can go on forever.... With a little enginuity and some basic metalworking tools, most any part is replicatable.

 

[Bowhunter1]

Like I said in a previoius post, everything I see branded Ardisam around here (tillers and power equipment) is oriental in manufacture. The great thing about most every stove is they all share the same mechanical components (ie:drives, vacuum switches, snap discs, room air fans) and usually, only the control boards and the CA fans are unique to each unit, so parts replacement can go on forever.... With a little enginuity and some basic metalworking tools, most any part is replicatable.

may or may not be true on the origin, mine says made in "Merica"! god bless it! that isn't to say some items might have come from Asia.

 

[Lake Girl]

The last batch I bought was Indeck energy. That was when all my problems started, at first blamed the pellets

That explains a lot! Indeck will provide heat but they are a very ashy pellet. I have LaCrete pellets (from Alberta) that I am burning now ... Indecks were easily twice as much ash for the same amount of pellets....

 

[3650]

If you can get Somersets I highly recommend them. I didnt care for Indiana hardwoods. Lignetics burned the same for me as Somersets, but Somersets are much cheaper.

I burn my stove 24 - 7. I'm away for 16 hours at a time. My stove cam with a fuel shut off device install on it. I guess some of them didnt but you can buy them if yours doesnt have one. I think Ardisam sells them and I see them on Ebay. Its basically a springloaded slide activated by snapdisc. Once the temperatur gets too hot it trips the snapdisc, releasing the slide and shuts off access to the hopper from the firebox. Just a little added security.

here's one:

http://wap.ebay.com/Pages/ViewItem.aspx?aid=320826332374&sv=cumberland 3800&emvcc=0&nbcol=0%7Cnull

 

[SidecarFlip]

I see that Ardisam now owns Castlle........ Interesting.

 

[3650]

they have for years

 

[SidecarFlip]

I didn't know that, don't own one. There is only one model listed and it's a wimpy output unit.

 

[Michigan girl]

If you can get Somersets I highly recommend them. I didnt care for Indiana hardwoods. Lignetics burned the same for me as Somersets, but Somersets are much cheaper.

I burn my stove 24 - 7. I'm away for 16 hours at a time. My stove cam with a fuel shut off device install on it. I guess some of them didnt but you can buy them if yours doesnt have one. I think Ardisam sells them and I see them on Ebay. Its basically a springloaded slide activated by snapdisc. Once the temperatur gets too hot it trips the snapdisc, releasing the slide and shuts off access to the hopper from the firebox. Just a little added security.

here's one:

http://wap.ebay.com/Pages/ViewItem.aspx?aid=320826332374&sv=cumberland 3800&emvcc=0&nbcol=0%7Cnull

Thanks! I did see in manual and while I was cleaning that mine did come with that!