I agree, but even if the hospitals are seeing the worst of the worst, 44% isn't a comforting number.
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I agree, but even if the hospitals are seeing the worst of the worst, 44% isn't a comforting number.
I never expected this thread to take off like it did.
As an old guy, I find I am considerably more worried about the ones I care about than myself. I know that I have to take care of myself, but the overwhelming reason for doing so is to avoid turning into the covid version of Typhoid Mary.
From a psychological level, how would one deal with being the first in the family to catch the virus, surviving it, and then watching others in the family perish? I know I think too much, but it seems becoming ill may be the least of one's worries.
I am not looking forward to the next few months.
As an old guy, I find I am considerably more worried about the ones I care about than myself. I know that I have to take care of myself, but the overwhelming reason for doing so is to avoid turning into the covid version of Typhoid Mary.
From a psychological level, how would one deal with being the first in the family to catch the virus, surviving it, and then watching others in the family perish? I know I think too much, but it seems becoming ill may be the least of one's worries.
I am not looking forward to the next few months.
Another reason to hunker down.
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You just illustrated the entire problem with the current state of affairs.
Educated people have continuously spoke out at the flippant disregard for the institutions, regulations, and norms that been attacked under attack and dismantled he last three years. People who have loyally served both parties for decades were eliminated and if they were replaced, it was by lobbyist who had absolutely no credibility in that field.
The only rebuttal has been childish name calling, incoherent 4th grade attacks, and pretending that there isn't a problem.
maple1
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I am thinking that there is no way that these early stats can be anywhere close to accurate. In order to be anything close to accurate, you would first need to know how many people have the virus. And as far as I know, there is nowhere near enough testing being done anywhere to determine that. I suspect there are very large numbers of people out there who have the virus & don't even know it.
Here is economist Nouriel Roubini talking about what this may do to the economy. In short, there is a lot of debt out there and insolvencies will go up.
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There is always a problem , been that way for many years. And many administrations. We all respect each others opinion here. Once the political bashing starts no matter which direction its going the discussion goes downhill from there ,EVERY TIME. Which is why the moderators strongly discourage injecting politics and or your particular religion into the discussion. A very wise decision. Was once something called the "ash can" here for that but even that was retired as a lost cause.
Williamtell was just pointing out the obvious. The administration on Tuesday was in Congress testifying and justifying budget cuts to the CDC. They also disbanded the pandemic team at NSC. Add to that their efforts to crush Obamacare (uninsured rate is rising again) and we begin to see that this administration is not prepared for this because they don't have a public health policy. That is Governing 101. Look at what South Korea has done. We are underperforming at this. If we can't say the truth what's the point of these discussions?
Looks like china is blaming the US for the Corona Virus. I guess they dont like the made in china label.
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Just last night i listened to the MSM complain the Europe travel ban was too much. What about travelers stuck at airports ect ect. So even the liberal media are not all on the same page. Cant have it both ways.
The ban is only for Schengen Area countries. Which seems a bit odd because the virus is still in the infected person whether they show a passport or not.
The blame game will go into hyper drive no doubt. The panic quite possibly will be worse than the virus. Were probably already there. I fully expect to get this at some point. Truck drivers going to every small town in america delivering food supplies,meat,produce. Store employees waiting on every shopping family in town. Were all connected in so many ways.
The World Health Organisation has confirmed that dogs cannot contract Covid-19.
Dogs previously kept in quarantine may now be released.
Just to be clear on this - WHO let the dogs out
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Dogs previously kept in quarantine may now be released.
Just to be clear on this - WHO let the dogs out
Don't know if you're an RU fan but they would have lost anyway. Haven't had a decent team since Tom Young.
In the Milwaukee area, my local costco in the middle of the day has lines to the back of the store, and a wait to get in. A few days ago costco was fine and just had some limits on paper products. Paper products are now gone.
Based on previous pandemics, it appears that almost all of the population will get hit. If not with the first wave then with a second one. According to this expert, there will be a second wave hitting China as they resume work and travel. (There were 3 waves with the Spanish Flu.) This is a no BS interview with him a couple of days ago. He has worked with several administrations and has no political agenda other than placing public health foremost.
"Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs""
"Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs""
Nothing he said was reassuring ,especially the part about horrible cases in their 40 s in italy, its going to get bad. Also Obesity is a big risk factor so america is in trouble.
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SpaceBus
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I think obesity is a factor because of inactivity/being sedentary. I think active people will be ok.
More likely because their organs are already stressed and compromised. Plus many have breathing difficulty already. Death rate is as high as 7% for those with diabetes ,and most obese are diabetic.
This guy (Michael Osterholm) was on Fox news a few minutes ago spelling out what we can expect. Yes he is a pretty straight shooter. All Schools closed in Kentucky Ohio and Maryland . Situation changing by the hour.
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They are cancelling about everything here. Just ended all kids hockey in this province. Here we go.... Let's hope this ends much sooner than anticipated.
Medic21
Minister of Fire
Some of the number I have seen through the States Department of Health they are estimating up to 35,000 in county have already been exposed. There is no way possible without testing every person for antibodies to know.
I said from the beginning that this has been here since before China acknowledged it. Our world is far too interconnected with flight and other forms of open travel that it took 6 weeks for it to move. People need to relax and just take precautions. It will infect, from experts, up to 80% of Americans before it’s done. Majority will only have minimal symptoms.
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