Cheapest 90cc+ chainsaw?

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Danno77 said:
here's your saw. act quick and it might be yours. not sure what the reserve is, but I think $400 bid on it would be a decent deal for a 100cc saw.

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That's a good price for a powerhouse. According to Acres' website,the saw was made in 1976 by Partner (same thing as their P100),rated for 16" to 36" bar.8000RPM,6.1cubic inch & powerhead weight of 18 lbs.

I'm very tempted to splurge right now.
 
Thistle said:
Danno77 said:
here's your saw. act quick and it might be yours. not sure what the reserve is, but I think $400 bid on it would be a decent deal for a 100cc saw.

(broken link removed to http://cgi.ebay.com/McCulloch-Pro-Mac-1000-Chainsaw-/320666940365?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item4aa93d33cd)

That's a good price for a powerhouse. According to Acres' website,the saw was made in 1976 by Partner (same thing as their P100),rated for 16" to 36" bar.8000RPM,6.1cubic inch & powerhead weight of 18 lbs.

I'm very tempted to splurge right now.

Chain speed is everything in milling....imho my 880 stock is 11500. Muff modd coming soon should get me 12500.
The big husky gov. set at 12000
 
smokinjay said:
Thistle said:
Danno77 said:
here's your saw. act quick and it might be yours. not sure what the reserve is, but I think $400 bid on it would be a decent deal for a 100cc saw.

(broken link removed to http://cgi.ebay.com/McCulloch-Pro-Mac-1000-Chainsaw-/320666940365?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item4aa93d33cd)

That's a good price for a powerhouse. According to Acres' website,the saw was made in 1976 by Partner (same thing as their P100),rated for 16" to 36" bar.8000RPM,6.1cubic inch & powerhead weight of 18 lbs.

I'm very tempted to splurge right now.

Chain speed is everything in milling....imho my 880 stock is 11500. Muff modd coming soon should get me 12500.

Yup.Those big older saws arent as fast,but had loads of low end torque.My Poulan 475 is 12500,same as its twin Jonsered 2077.I didnt think it was quite that much until I seen it being tach'd on dealer's shop bench.The Stihl 090 I'm always thinking about is only 6500,be nice to double that somehow without burning it up lol
 
Thistle said:
smokinjay said:
Thistle said:
Danno77 said:
here's your saw. act quick and it might be yours. not sure what the reserve is, but I think $400 bid on it would be a decent deal for a 100cc saw.

(broken link removed to http://cgi.ebay.com/McCulloch-Pro-Mac-1000-Chainsaw-/320666940365?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item4aa93d33cd)

That's a good price for a powerhouse. According to Acres' website,the saw was made in 1976 by Partner (same thing as their P100),rated for 16" to 36" bar.8000RPM,6.1cubic inch & powerhead weight of 18 lbs.

I'm very tempted to splurge right now.

Chain speed is everything in milling....imho my 880 stock is 11500. Muff modd coming soon should get me 12500.

Yup.Those big older saws arent as fast,but had loads of low end torque.My Poulan 475 is 12500,same as its twin Jonsered 2077.I didnt think it was quite that much until I seen it being tach'd on dealer's shop bench.The Stihl 090 I'm always thinking about is only 6500,be nice to double that somehow without burning it up lol

The 090 with the gov off will do 12k range no problem.
 
Definitely agree 10000% with Jay on this, BUT (and that's a big but) Remember that these older saws will run much slower out of the wood then their newer counterparts, but in the wood SOME of that difference disappears because of their brute strength. To put some numbers to it to explain a little better (these are MADE UP NUMBERS, NOT REAL) an old big cc saw may run 8500 out of the wood and a new similarly sized saw may run 12500 out of the wood, but get both deep into a cut and working hard and your old saw will be down to 7900 and the new saw will be down to 10,500.
 
Danno77 said:
Definitely agree 10000% with Jay on this, BUT (and that's a big but) Remember that these older saws will run much slower out of the wood then their newer counterparts, but in the wood SOME of that difference disappears because of their brute strength. To put some numbers to it to explain a little better (these are MADE UP NUMBERS, NOT REAL) an old big cc saw may run 8500 out of the wood and a new similarly sized saw may run 12500 out of the wood, but get both deep into a cut and working hard and your old saw will be down to 7900 and the new saw will be down to 10,500.

I am talking about milling only when it comes to the big saw's. I like to be running in the 8k range under a load. Pressure is applied or taken off to maintain it. Not saying anything wrong with the older saw like that just not in the range I am looking for. (milling only and there modds you can do to most old saws) That also brings up the final cost.
 
That's true,those big older saws have incredible torque,especially needed when buried in a big log.It takes 3 times as much power when milling as compared to regular crosscutting.
 
Sorry to get back to the op's question but your best chance to get a relatively expensive 90+ cc saw is a 395XP. Picked up my current 395 for $460 including shipping. Well used and mighty dirty and had to replace a few parts but it runs like a champ. Try and get one with a decent sized bar as a new longer bar will set you back some serious coin.

Unfortunately, after a quick scan, the cheapest one on there now is over $600 with only a 20" bar.
 
We'll see how my $240.00 Solo 690 is when it arrives. I don't think I can get a big saw much cheaper than that. These are supposed to be torquers & capable of driving a 42" bar. With a 36" bar this should be a hellofa nice pruning saw, Randy
 
I have a 395XP and I'll tell you it ain't close to my Solo 681. I've thought about selling it but hang on to it for a spare. The 681 or Dolmar7900 is the best all around value and will kick most 90+cc saws and are alot lighter. I will tell you from experience no body needs anything more than what those 2 deliver and this is coming from a guy who most always thinks bigger is better. I've had a 32" bar on my Solo and can't slow it down. Total animal of a saw. Problem is though they are getting hard to find, very few dealers around. Might have to be an internet purchase. Dolmars are alot easier to locate dealers for. There a couple guys who have really dialed in the 7900 for a port job. After porting a 7900 you'll have the last saw you'll ever buy in that size. Like me with the PP346, its like cutting with a light sabre.
 
wkpoor said:
I have a 395XP and I'll tell you it ain't close to my Solo 681. I've thought about selling it but hang on to it for a spare. The 681 or Dolmar7900 is the best all around value and will kick most 90+cc saws and are alot lighter. I will tell you from experience no body needs anything more than what those 2 deliver and this is coming from a guy who most always thinks bigger is better. I've had a 32" bar on my Solo and can't slow it down. Total animal of a saw. Problem is though they are getting hard to find, very few dealers around. Might have to be an internet purchase. Dolmars are alot easier to locate dealers for. There a couple guys who have really dialed in the 7900 for a port job. After porting a 7900 you'll have the last saw you'll ever buy in that size. Like me with the PP346, its like cutting with a light sabre.

Sounds like you been drinking the kool-aid again! lol
 
smokinjay said:
wkpoor said:
I have a 395XP and I'll tell you it ain't close to my Solo 681. I've thought about selling it but hang on to it for a spare. The 681 or Dolmar7900 is the best all around value and will kick most 90+cc saws and are alot lighter. I will tell you from experience no body needs anything more than what those 2 deliver and this is coming from a guy who most always thinks bigger is better. I've had a 32" bar on my Solo and can't slow it down. Total animal of a saw. Problem is though they are getting hard to find, very few dealers around. Might have to be an internet purchase. Dolmars are alot easier to locate dealers for. There a couple guys who have really dialed in the 7900 for a port job. After porting a 7900 you'll have the last saw you'll ever buy in that size. Like me with the PP346, its like cutting with a light sabre.

Sounds like you been drinking the kool-aid again! lol
Ya I thought the same thing till I went to my first GTG. I had been cuttin firewood for 25yrs and thought I knew it all. I got my A** handed to me on a plate. It was so embarrassing its a wonder I could face those guys again. But I soon broke the ice and let them teach me a thing or 2 about chainsaws.
 
wkpoor said:
Ya I thought the same thing till I went to my first GTG. I had been cuttin firewood for 25yrs and thought I knew it all. I got my A** handed to me on a plate. It was so embarrassing its a wonder I could face those guys again. But I soon broke the ice and let them teach me a thing or 2 about chainsaws.

It was those crazy dudes from the Cincinnati area, wasn't it? ;-)
 
wkpoor said:
smokinjay said:
wkpoor said:
I have a 395XP and I'll tell you it ain't close to my Solo 681. I've thought about selling it but hang on to it for a spare. The 681 or Dolmar7900 is the best all around value and will kick most 90+cc saws and are alot lighter. I will tell you from experience no body needs anything more than what those 2 deliver and this is coming from a guy who most always thinks bigger is better. I've had a 32" bar on my Solo and can't slow it down. Total animal of a saw. Problem is though they are getting hard to find, very few dealers around. Might have to be an internet purchase. Dolmars are alot easier to locate dealers for. There a couple guys who have really dialed in the 7900 for a port job. After porting a 7900 you'll have the last saw you'll ever buy in that size. Like me with the PP346, its like cutting with a light sabre.

Sounds like you been drinking the kool-aid again! lol
Ya I thought the same thing till I went to my first GTG. I had been cuttin firewood for 25yrs and thought I knew it all. I got my A** handed to me on a plate. It was so embarrassing its a wonder I could face those guys again. But I soon broke the ice and let them teach me a thing or 2 about chainsaws.

lol I have been around them saws not anything to save on the 7900 anymore. Ported 460 vs 7900 not going to embarrass anyone either side. Lots of Awesome saws in this class. Saving money not going to happen unless you pick it up used off someone who dont know what there selling. BEST CHAIN SHARPENER WINS THESE'S CONTEST.
 
3yrs ago a 7900 could be had new for 545.00. Super great saw at a super great price. Then crap happened. Price shot up like crazy. Baileys still has some killers deals on the Makitas 6400 with BB kit. If I didn't already have all I need thats what I would probably get.
 
wkpoor said:
3yrs ago a 7900 could be had new for 545.00. Super great saw at a super great price. Then crap happened. Price shot up like crazy. Baileys still has some killers deals on the Makitas 6400 with BB kit. If I didn't already have all I need thats what I would probably get.
I heard Dolmar was trying to grab market share years ago & their saws were selling cheaper here than in Germany. The problem with the BB kit as I see it, is that you are taking off a high quality Mahle Nikasil cylinder & putting on what is probably a China P&C set., something I wouldn't put on a Dolmar I owned. Randy
 
wkpoor said:
3yrs ago a 7900 could be had new for 545.00. Super great saw at a super great price. Then crap happened. Price shot up like crazy. Baileys still has some killers deals on the Makitas 6400 with BB kit. If I didn't already have all I need thats what I would probably get.

Same saw now is 850.00 with no bar.....Didnt take long but glad you got one 545 is a great deal!
 
Singed Eyebrows said:
wkpoor said:
3yrs ago a 7900 could be had new for 545.00. Super great saw at a super great price. Then crap happened. Price shot up like crazy. Baileys still has some killers deals on the Makitas 6400 with BB kit. If I didn't already have all I need thats what I would probably get.
I heard Dolmar was trying to grab market share years ago & their saws were selling cheaper here than in Germany. The problem with the BB kit as I see it, is that you are taking off a high quality Mahle Nikasil cylinder & putting on what is probably a China P&C set., something I wouldn't put on a Dolmar I owned. Randy
You are probably correct. Better to just keep the BB kit for later if you would need it. They sent me a 100cc BB for my 395 yrs ago and I never did get around to trying it out.
 
I didn't read all the post so this may have been posted...
A used Makita 6401 from Home Depot for around $200 to $300, with a 84cc BB kit from Baileys.
Or do what I did.. Order a new 6421 from HD for $472.00 and after the warranty runs out but on Baileys 84cc BB kit.
 
Singed Eyebrows said:
wkpoor said:
3yrs ago a 7900 could be had new for 545.00. Super great saw at a super great price. Then crap happened. Price shot up like crazy. Baileys still has some killers deals on the Makitas 6400 with BB kit. If I didn't already have all I need thats what I would probably get.
I heard Dolmar was trying to grab market share years ago & their saws were selling cheaper here than in Germany. The problem with the BB kit as I see it, is that you are taking off a high quality Mahle Nikasil cylinder & putting on what is probably a China P&C set., something I wouldn't put on a Dolmar I owned. Randy

Baileys offers 2 kits....one is the 79cc Mahle. More money of course, but that's what I'd go with.

Also saw Baileys now has meteor kits for other saws where up until now they only had pistons. Good reviews and they are about $150
 
atvdave said:
I didn't read all the post so this may have been posted...
A used Makita 6401 from Home Depot for around $200 to $300, with a 84cc BB kit from Baileys.
Or do what I did.. Order a new 6421 from HD for $472.00 and after the warranty runs out but on Baileys 84cc BB kit.
Didn't realize that HD deal was still out there. Some of those showed up at one of my GTGs a couple yrs ago with BB on them. They ran good!
 
wkpoor said:
atvdave said:
I didn't read all the post so this may have been posted...
A used Makita 6401 from Home Depot for around $200 to $300, with a 84cc BB kit from Baileys.
Or do what I did.. Order a new 6421 from HD for $472.00 and after the warranty runs out but on Baileys 84cc BB kit.
Didn't realize that HD deal was still out there. Some of those showed up at one of my GTGs a couple yrs ago with BB on them. They ran good!

It's kinda hit and miss. Some people get rejected and some don't. I had no problems at all and it was just last week. And if they do reject you the will most likely offer a used 6401 at a reduced rate if you complain enough about it. The key is to pay up front... then they have your money and there's little they can do other than give you a refund. But if you complain enough they will offer you a used 6401 for a lot less then they usually sale them for.
 
NoPaint said:
What is the cheapest used 90cc+ saw I can buy. No I don't need 90cc's but its something every man should have. Order of importance: 1. Burly Truck 2. Burly Splitter 3. Burly Saw. Right now I'm only at 54cc's (not burly). Please help me find a burly saw. Thanks!

Cheap?? You can probably find an old Homelite 5-30 for $50 and it has 114 ccs. Another $50 will get you an old Remington Mall at 105 ccs. That the cheapest I know of.

I've got several of both. Homelite 5-30 was named because it's rated at 5 horse and weighs 30 lbs. The Mall 2MG weighs 34 lbs.

I cut for over 20 years with a Sthil 056 Magnum at 93 ccs. Last summer while stuck for parts with my Sthil,I started using a Makita/Dolmar 64 cc saw and never went back to the Sthil. I love the Dolmar and hardly notice the power difference. The only thing I don't like about it is the rim-sprocket it came with.
 
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