Can the Garn handle a Canadian winter -40's

[heaterman]

whenever I hear the word, sensor, I cringe. 2 02 sensors in chevy truck cost 240.00 The simplicy of the Garn is what made me buy one. It needs to improve efficiency at least 5-10% to justify the headaches that come with "sensors" JMHO.

Exactly! While it's true that it would increase efficiency somewhat, there is nothing currently made that's as simple as a Garn in its present form.

 

[radiantman]

Heaterman, Well said.
That is the best explanation I've heard of BTU's in compared to BTU used . Well done

 

[Scott from Canada]

Thanks Heaterman for the explanation of the working of the Garns BTU storage.speaking of which I had a call from Garns sales manager Jim Saufferer today. We chatted a bit and he is suggesting because of where I am that I go with the 2000. He wants me to contact Ken Oaks for pricing . With some of the figures I have seen thrown around on the forum, the 1500 was going to be a stretch. All he asked was where abouts I lived and how many sqft I was looking at heating (3700sqft.)
We talked a little about solar or electric backup. I would probably look at electric as our rates are pretty good.
I was some what surprised that he said glycol is not used with their systems.He said you just have to protect your system against freezing; we do get a lot of that here.haha

THANKS EVERYONE FOR JUMPING IN, IT WILL MAKE FOR BETTER INFORMED DECISION MAKING AND LESS SURPRISES.

 

[heaterman]

Thanks Heaterman for the explanation of the working of the Garns BTU storage.speaking of which I had a call from Garns sales manager Jim Saufferer today. We chatted a bit and he is suggesting because of where I am that I go with the 2000. He wants me to contact Ken Oaks for pricing . With some of the figures I have seen thrown around on the forum, the 1500 was going to be a stretch. All he asked was where abouts I lived and how many sqft I was looking at heating (3700sqft.)
We talked a little about solar or electric backup. I would probably look at electric as our rates are pretty good.
I was some what surprised that he said glycol is not used with their systems.He said you just have to protect your system against freezing; we do get a lot of that here.haha

THANKS EVERYONE FOR JUMPING IN, IT WILL MAKE FOR BETTER INFORMED DECISION MAKING AND LESS SURPRISES.

A 2000 would give you about 2 hours more "draw" time than a 1500. 500 more gallons of storage = roughly another 250,000 btu's.
Ken's a straight shooter and he'll treat you right.

Where in Canada are you? Freight can be a real killer to some places.

 

[heaterman]

Heaterman, Well said.
That is the best explanation I've heard of BTU's in compared to BTU used . Well done

Why thank you very kindly! Hope it shed a little light on the subject for people.

 

[Como]

I have only seen one Garn in operation, a 1500, and that use glycol in the circulation system.

An electrical back up would certainly be he cheapest of the options.

I am very surprised about 85%, that is hitting the KOB etc values. But as the 2000 is on the short list that is a positive.

Solar is certainly worth considering. Windhager provide that as part of their complete building package.

 

[Scott from Canada]

I,m approx. 3hrs north of Grand forks. 1/2 an hour north of Winnipeg. The 2000s on the short list ? Are you meaning less people are after them, more in stock?

 

[Gooserider]

I,m approx. 3hrs north of Grand forks. 1/2 an hour north of Winnipeg. The 2000s on the short list ? Are you meaning less people are after them, more in stock?

Something being on the "Short list" in US-English is generally meaning that the item is on the short list of products that one is seriously considering, as opposed to the usually much longer list of products that one COULD purchase... Generally a methodical shopper will start by making a list of all the alternatives that might meet a need, and then proceed cross off the ones that are less than a good fit for whatever reason, until you have a "short list" of items that are acceptable and pick one from that set...

Thus saying a product is "on the short list" means that it has survived the initial selection process and is now in the final review stage... It doesn't have anything directly to do with availablity or whats in stock on the supplier side, although it might be an influence (I can't get product "A" so get product "B")

Gooserider

 

[Scott from Canada]

You know I new that was a stupid question. Yes I would say the Garn is on the short list . We'll have to see what the sales dept. can come up with.

 

[maineheat]

Scott beautiful area you're from! I just spend 6 days fishing on a lake just east of you (Larus Lake, ON in Woodland Caribou Provincial Park for Walleye and Northern Pike). Seeing how far up you are I'd think oversizing would give you a buffer in case you build additions onto you house given the service life of these beasts. Anyways good luck with your project and remember us Hearthers love pictures when you get into the implementation phase.

 

[Scott from Canada]

Yes ,East and west of us is rolling hills and lakes. It is quite a flat prairie where I am. Yes the sizing is certainly something to consider.
I just got off the phone with salesmen Ken Oaks. He along with sales manager Jim S. are suggesting the 2000. It would give me a little
more reserve for those cold stints of -35- 40 we get up here. I just hope we can work on the price a little.

Thanks everyone for jumping in on this post. All your experience with these units in more than welcome.

 

[brad068]

For cripes sakes! how is this thread staying open. It should be titled what can't a garn handle cause' the only place left that I can think of is mars and I'm not so sure that nasa ain't takin' one along to melt the polar ice caps .

 

[Jim K in PA]

For cripes sakes! how is this thread staying open. It should be titled what can't a garn handle cause' the only place left that I can think of is mars and I'm not so sure that nasa ain't takin' one along to melt the polar ice caps .

ROFL - Garnification - I bet that is what they are doing with the liquid fuel tanks for the space shuttle - they are heading to a GARN fab shop on the moon for shipment to Mars . . .

:lol: ;-P