^I actually tried that before I installed the OAK. I didn't like the results of running it through the window as it was harder to make sure that thre was no other cold air leaking in around the pipe. I stuffed some towels in the window just as a temporary try out for the OAK. After a day of doing it that way I just gave up and cut a hole in the wall haha.
Burn ratio with Englander pellet stove
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CDodge04 said:
To avoid cutting another hole in the house you could run through the thimble. Unfortunately I didn't think of that first, and have two holes in my house :-(
Not sure if it's been asked of before, but could you pull air from the attic or would that be the same as the basement? Attic's typically have the vents up there that exchange air anyway...For my exhaust I converted my 3" inch exhaust to go up through my 6" metal bestos flu...Why not just widen out the hole a little bit where my chimney goes up through to the attic and stick the pipe up there? I have one of those suspended ceilings, just some sheetrock above the suspended ceiling, it'd be more than easy to stick the OAK up through that. I've already got the OAK out through the wall, but the info might be useful for those that haven't...
I think the objective here is to have a short run for the OAK. Somewhere on this forum someone explains why, but I can't remember for the life of me. Think I'm developing CRS...
I sent Pelletizer a PM and asked him to drop in here and see if he can give you some advice on installing your OAK through the same hole that you cut for the vent. I'm not sure how he did it but I think that might be the easiest solution for you.
Installing the OAK into the basement isn't a good idea unless you happen to have a really open basement with tons of fresh air down there. Basically, installing the OAK anywhere inside your house could create the same negative pressure issues as running the stove without an OAK.
Installing the OAK into the basement isn't a good idea unless you happen to have a really open basement with tons of fresh air down there. Basically, installing the OAK anywhere inside your house could create the same negative pressure issues as running the stove without an OAK.
Simpson sells a wall thimble with an OAK built into it. check it out on their website. i bought and installed one. kind of pricey, just like everything else they sell. but it works nice and i didn't have to put another hole in the house.
I do have my OAK installed through the thimble here is a pic I found I will take more pics later.
I did get the idea from the custom Thimble Simpson sells like Chinkoski says.
It is a little work but I like the results
You will need a 2" hole saw and need to pop out the screen from the OAK kit.
All you do is make sure there is enough room for the hose by cutting out a liitle extra sheet rock and outside siding.
Cut the 2" hole in the outside thimble, put a bead of silicone on the little round screen and place it from the outside in the 2" drilled hole, Put some silicone on the back side of the screen (not the screen itself) that is now inserted in the thimble.
Put the hose with hose clamp and tighten up but not to tight as the screen pc is only aluminum (let the silicone set up)
Place outside thimble in wall with OAK hose poking into house place inside thimble (with a 2" hole drilled in the same area as the outside thimble) in the wall with hose poking out.
At this point I had the outside thimble mounted to the siding so it was solid, but inside thimble was not screwed to wall.
Then line up stove pipes/stove through the wall and mount ouside pipe to wall.
When all is lined up mount inside thimble to wall hook up OAK to stove, silicone were OAK and stove pipe goes through thimble.
Just don't pull on the OAK to hard you don't want to pull the hose off that is now hose clamped in the wall.
Sounds like a pain but it is pretty easy. I will post a pic in a bit
I did get the idea from the custom Thimble Simpson sells like Chinkoski says.
It is a little work but I like the results
You will need a 2" hole saw and need to pop out the screen from the OAK kit.
All you do is make sure there is enough room for the hose by cutting out a liitle extra sheet rock and outside siding.
Cut the 2" hole in the outside thimble, put a bead of silicone on the little round screen and place it from the outside in the 2" drilled hole, Put some silicone on the back side of the screen (not the screen itself) that is now inserted in the thimble.
Put the hose with hose clamp and tighten up but not to tight as the screen pc is only aluminum (let the silicone set up)
Place outside thimble in wall with OAK hose poking into house place inside thimble (with a 2" hole drilled in the same area as the outside thimble) in the wall with hose poking out.
At this point I had the outside thimble mounted to the siding so it was solid, but inside thimble was not screwed to wall.
Then line up stove pipes/stove through the wall and mount ouside pipe to wall.
When all is lined up mount inside thimble to wall hook up OAK to stove, silicone were OAK and stove pipe goes through thimble.
Just don't pull on the OAK to hard you don't want to pull the hose off that is now hose clamped in the wall.
Sounds like a pain but it is pretty easy. I will post a pic in a bit
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I'm working my way up from pellet piglet (yearling 1 ton) - doing my share of "grunt" work. Mascot?
Well, we got the stove moved on Sunday (I've got some pics that I'm working on adding). I must say that my hubby did a fine job and we didn't kill each other!! The wall thimble covers up the area well as the holes weren't perfect since he found the studs, along with the old wood siding and old aluminum siding on top of that. I think it took about 6 hours and the time change screwed us up.
We wanted to do our test burn to make sure it was going to be better. The house was warm to begin with since we had an absolutely beautiful weekend. Start temp was 71 downstairs & 64 up. This morning it was 86 down & 72 up and we could feel the warm air going up the stairs. Maybe this local will work. I guess our real test will be later in the week when it gets cold again.
Well, we got the stove moved on Sunday (I've got some pics that I'm working on adding). I must say that my hubby did a fine job and we didn't kill each other!! The wall thimble covers up the area well as the holes weren't perfect since he found the studs, along with the old wood siding and old aluminum siding on top of that. I think it took about 6 hours and the time change screwed us up.
We wanted to do our test burn to make sure it was going to be better. The house was warm to begin with since we had an absolutely beautiful weekend. Start temp was 71 downstairs & 64 up. This morning it was 86 down & 72 up and we could feel the warm air going up the stairs. Maybe this local will work. I guess our real test will be later in the week when it gets cold again.
Now that we had to move this thing - flooring under the stove is the next phase. One guy told me he's got acres of stone that I can go thru (now that's work!). Someone else suggested welding some sheet metal together and paint it (free from work). And a couple other people had suggestions. Right now it needs to be very inexpensive, plain & simple and don't care what it looks like.
Glad to hear that no one was killed in the stove move. ;-) It sounds like the new location is going to work much better for you. About the floor.....do you have any kind of hearth pad under it now? What kind of flooring is it on? There have been tons of discussions on here about building hearth pads so if you do a search you'll likely come up with all kinds of ideas.
I've seen some great looking pads on here (nice work) - which are giving us some good ideas. Ours is sitting on a temp tile pad so that we can work on getting a nice looking one made later on.
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Was just itching to know just how much better this new location was going to be - fired the stove up last night (temp outside was low 50's). Got up this morning and upstairs temp was 71. Hot diggity dog!! :coolsmile: This just might work.
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