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BeGreen said:
Yea that's tricky in itself. And on top off that, the chimney would no longer be supported by the ceiling but would be just like an outside prefab. Too much.
Looks like my only choice is to double 45 the stove pipe and pick a strategic spot for the chimney so as to have the best look. It's killing me.
Be flexible and think outside the box. If it doesn't feel right, maybe it isn't. Other possibles - locate the stove on the kitchen wall side of the room. Or, reverse the layout and move the pool table to the kitchen side and put the stove where the pool table is? Or, move the pool table into the living room and remove the couch. It would look much more like a proper man cave then. 
oldspark said:
There is more than one grade of single wall pipe and I am sure that properly treated "good" single wall will last much longer than the cheap stuff that is abused. None of it will last as long as double wall pipe though. I think the single wall looks better and would have used it if I had clearance.
This install is confusing. if only a short section out the back into a thimble then it doesn't matter really.
You're not getting the stove back 8" from the wall without going straight out the back, using double wall stove pipe, or a big ugly pipe shield. The single wall stuff must be 18" from combustible wall. The good news is that the OP has decided on double wall, it is expensive though.
Home theater has ceiling speakers. Can't really change the room that drastically... 65 inch plasma on the wall with all electrical hookups in the wall. Only option is where the love seat is against the kitchen wall.
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oldspark said:
Thanks. This is the layout sketch The circle things are the ceiling speakers. It's 7.1 surround.
Where I want the stove is perfect. Where I want the chimney isn't. If I put the chimney to the right of the stove you won't see the offset much from the side.
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Hey, Highbeam, that's my pipe you're talkin' about! <g>
I have double-wall (6"), and think it looks fine. It's black, part of the Excel system, I think. I'd forgotten it was double-wall until I inadvertently touched it with a fire roaring below and did *not* leave a sizzling skin flap on the pipe. And yes, it's expensive, but we're talking a very short run here if he does go straight back.
+1 on Begreen's advice. If this is not feeling right, sit down, breathe into a paper bag for awhile and commit to doing NOTHING until it does feel right. Otherwise you're going to be miserable (even if your decision, in retrospect, was the right one). Get the trailer with the stove on it into the garage, and let the car sit outside for awhile. (Give it an adventure to look back on--tell it that it gets to camp out overnight in the yard). Push ideas around on paper. Walk around the attic and pick spots based solely on the stovepipe location.
There are answers, there are solutions, and often they are far superior to the initial vision--but that means that you have to loosen the fist a bit and release the vision of the One Right Way. You don't have to act on this today. You don't even have to decide today.
The spot I had picked out originally would have taken a couple of offsets to pull off. I ended up reluctantly (to use that word in the greatest understatement in the history of the English language) compromising on a spot that allowed for a straight shot up through a second story and an attic--no mean feat. The location is great and the draft is everything I could ask for. I love having it, but in retrospect if there was one thing I could do differently it would be to have spared myself the installation trauma.
We work so hard to get the house right in terms of preventing heat loss and here we are about to punch a hole in it. It can feel like a violation of all our instincts (think ironworker taking up bungee-jumping). Stove Store Guy had to say to me at one point, "Can't have a stove without a chimney." That helped.
I have double-wall (6"), and think it looks fine. It's black, part of the Excel system, I think. I'd forgotten it was double-wall until I inadvertently touched it with a fire roaring below and did *not* leave a sizzling skin flap on the pipe. And yes, it's expensive, but we're talking a very short run here if he does go straight back.
+1 on Begreen's advice. If this is not feeling right, sit down, breathe into a paper bag for awhile and commit to doing NOTHING until it does feel right. Otherwise you're going to be miserable (even if your decision, in retrospect, was the right one). Get the trailer with the stove on it into the garage, and let the car sit outside for awhile. (Give it an adventure to look back on--tell it that it gets to camp out overnight in the yard). Push ideas around on paper. Walk around the attic and pick spots based solely on the stovepipe location.
There are answers, there are solutions, and often they are far superior to the initial vision--but that means that you have to loosen the fist a bit and release the vision of the One Right Way. You don't have to act on this today. You don't even have to decide today.
The spot I had picked out originally would have taken a couple of offsets to pull off. I ended up reluctantly (to use that word in the greatest understatement in the history of the English language) compromising on a spot that allowed for a straight shot up through a second story and an attic--no mean feat. The location is great and the draft is everything I could ask for. I love having it, but in retrospect if there was one thing I could do differently it would be to have spared myself the installation trauma.
We work so hard to get the house right in terms of preventing heat loss and here we are about to punch a hole in it. It can feel like a violation of all our instincts (think ironworker taking up bungee-jumping). Stove Store Guy had to say to me at one point, "Can't have a stove without a chimney." That helped.
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Can't have the pool table in front of the big windows... CRASH
And i really want to be next to the screen room to get the wood.
The really hard part is pinpointing where the chimney will exit the roof. Once I am assured I am thinking I might be able to squeeze it in just next to the valley with some re-fabricating of the chimney roof flashing. They sell a "DSA" version which is dead soft aluminum. Be easy to bend and cut.
And i really want to be next to the screen room to get the wood.
The really hard part is pinpointing where the chimney will exit the roof. Once I am assured I am thinking I might be able to squeeze it in just next to the valley with some re-fabricating of the chimney roof flashing. They sell a "DSA" version which is dead soft aluminum. Be easy to bend and cut.
I drilled a tiny hole and put a wire through it. Hung my keys and took a lousy cell phone picture.
Looks doable for a straight up. I may move it a little to get farther away. I think one joist to the right.
That's about 6" from the edge of the shingles in the pictures.
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Looks doable for a straight up. I may move it a little to get farther away. I think one joist to the right.
That's about 6" from the edge of the shingles in the pictures.
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Recommendations on chimney brand? I want good quality stainless.
What makes one type more expensive and or better?
What makes one type more expensive and or better?
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