2017-18 Blaze King Performance Thread PART 3 (Everything BK)

[ratsrepus]

No... he has an Ashford. Both of mine stay pretty clean, even at low settings, and I’ve always heard other Ashford owners say the same. Time for the moisture meter.

My wood is as dry as a popcorn fart ashfull, meter says way under 20%

 

[BKVP]

More or less its because BK's are well engineered, simple design and have very few problems, so in essence BKVP gets to do the nascar victory lap here once a week..lol

Thank you but when Mark Martin, Carl Edwards and now Jr. all retired, I'm trying to find a new driver...think Truex is my new favorite. And yes, they all watch THIS channel.

 

[ratsrepus]

Thank you but when Mark Martin, Carl Edwards and now Jr. all retired, I'm trying to find a new driver...think Truex is my new favorite. And yes, they all watch THIS channel.

Toyota? bad

 

[Ashful]

My wood is as dry as a popcorn fart ashfull, meter says way under 20%

Great line! I guess there must be something to the claims of softwood causing more creo than hardwood, then. I suspect that, even on the lowest setting, oak is still going to run hotter than cedar. That may be the difference between a glazed vs clean window.

 

[Highbeam]

Even when the glass of my princess is at maximum blackness (50% blocked or so) there is still plenty of visibility for flames during the warm up period and then it all goes dark anyway.

Woodstock uses double pane glass and higher minimum burn rates to keep their glass pretty clean.

I can not burn the glass clean. I can convert the creo to crunchy stuff but it takes a blade to scrape clean.

 

[tarzan]

A little off the subject of cleaning but I've never really gotten the make or break need for clean glass thing. I've excepted dirty glass as the residual effects to the ability of putting out a mere <14,000 BTU's steadily from a 3cft stove. Long term, the flexibility of a stove with such a broad output range trumps my occasional desire for ambience.

Perhaps someday someone will figure out a design to keep such a large piece of ceramic placed in front of a smoldering wood fire clean but I surmise an electric fan or some other "add on" device to make it possible.

 

[kennyp2339]

I go on the premise of “I’m not doing it right if my Bk glass is to clean”

 

[greg66]

Perhaps someday someone will figure out a design to keep such a large piece of ceramic placed in front of a smoldering wood fire clean but I surmise an electric fan or some other "add on" device to make it possible.


platinum coated ceramic glass?

 

[BKVP]

Perhaps someday someone will figure out a design to keep such a large piece of ceramic placed in front of a smoldering wood fire clean but I surmise an electric fan or some other "add on" device to make it possible.


platinum coated ceramic glass?

A few years ago we tried IR glass....with no improvement. Some mfg's use IR glass to radiant temps back into the fire to increase combustion temps. On low burn, it was not an improvement....either cleanliness or emissions!

 

[Diabel]

Old VCs had that issue solved, cast doors problem solved.

We were at friends place some time ago. It was a chilly eve and he had his insert (tube) running. The glass was spotless to the point that my wife thought it was NG insert. He was sooo proud of his super clean glass....he cleans the glass every day before starting a new fire.

I use my stove to heat and 95% of the time the firebox is totally black.

 

[Highbeam]

The noncat glass stays super clean. High firebox temperatures and a flood of fresh air. High efficiency cat stoves burn cool and with very little air flow.

 

[Diabel]

The noncat glass stays super clean. High firebox temperatures and a flood of fresh air. High efficiency cat stoves burn cool and with very little air flow.

And I am totaly ok with that.

 

[showrguy]

Thank you but when Mark Martin, Carl Edwards and now Jr. all retired, I'm trying to find a new driver...think Truex is my new favorite. And yes, they all watch THIS channel.

2-12-22 jus sayin !!

 

[kennyp2339]

A few years ago we tried IR glass....with no improvement. Some mfg's use IR glass to radiant temps back into the fire to increase combustion temps. On low burn, it was not an improvement....either cleanliness or emissions!

Black glass / clean glass is a love hate relationship, your trying to cater to different people at the same time.
To the clean glass people, a fire needs to burn at a certain temp, with a certain moisture percentage of the fuel, with different fuels (wood) at different moisture percentages that are found around the county its almost nearly impossible to find the right burn at low (smolder) and still keep the glass clean. I personally think that the ashford stoves come the closest in this respect (stove design) but its something that will imo will never get truly nailed down, without sacrifice.
But don't trade a little bit of dirty glass for function, I came from a high output air tube stove, I burnt 6-7 cords a year, was baked out of my living room, had to reload 4-5 times a day and had other less than desirable issues, I bought a princess and that all went away (dropped to 4 cords on a hard winter), and I don't clean my glass and I'm able to keep the glass fairly clean when running on medium to high settings.
Black glass people - Doesn't it feel good to load once +24hrs during the season and just see a little tiny glow in the box, then when it gets really cold burn some more maybe load twice a day and have a decently clean glass with candle flames, but know at the same time we're burning more wood than we would like because we got use to black glass = long burns, low usage = warm house.

 

[Highbeam]

Black glass / clean glass is a love hate relationship, your trying to cater to different people at the same time.
To the clean glass people, a fire needs to burn at a certain temp, with a certain moisture percentage of the fuel, with different fuels (wood) at different moisture percentages that are found around the county its almost nearly impossible to find the right burn at low (smolder) and still keep the glass clean. I personally think that the ashford stoves come the closest in this respect (stove design) but its something that will imo will never get truly nailed down, without sacrifice.
But don't trade a little bit of dirty glass for function, I came from a high output air tube stove, I burnt 6-7 cords a year, was baked out of my living room, had to reload 4-5 times a day and had other less than desirable issues, I bought a princess and that all went away (dropped to 4 cords on a hard winter), and I don't clean my glass and I'm able to keep the glass fairly clean when running on medium to high settings.
Black glass people - Doesn't it feel good to load once +24hrs during the season and just see a little tiny glow in the box, then when it gets really cold burn some more maybe load twice a day and have a decently clean glass with candle flames, but know at the same time we're burning more wood than we would like because we got use to black glass = long burns, low usage = warm house.

The ashford (all30/20 boxes) gave up some efficiency compared to the princess box. In return they got lower emissions and cleaner glass. Do you think that these are related?

 

[ratsrepus]

I figured this coming winter the glass will stay cleaner, no big deal. It is what it is

 

[kennyp2339]

The ashford (all30/20 boxes) gave up some efficiency compared to the princess box. In return they got lower emissions and cleaner glass. Do you think that these are related?

Absolutely there related, also door angle in respect to fire box temp with the physics of air wash, but much of that is way way above my pay grade / intelligence.

 

[Poindexter]

As usual for me, if the wife is in lace who cares about soot on the glass? If the wife is in fleece, turn the knob clockwise to solve both problems.

I do break out my VISA card annually for someone without rotator cuff issues from my local dealer to deal with the corners of the ceramic glass, usually in May.

Proverbs 31:10-11 (Poindexter paraphrase) An excellent woman is worth far more than jewels like rubies or pearls. Her husband trusts her and he will have no lack.

Just saying fellas. What is the end and which are the means?

 

[kennyp2339]

Just saying fellas. What is the end and which are the means?

I think when a newb ask's a question about a BK and you get multiple answers, each different from each other we all can look at it as QI, I personally enjoy reading these questions and statements, plus adding to the pot.

 

[jetsam]

My door's transparency is a function of the outside temperature. When it's black, there's nothing to see in the stove anyway. When it gets cold, the door cleans itself and you can see the pretty fire. No fuss, no muss.

 

[rdust]

My door's transparency is a function of the outside temperature. When it's black, there's nothing to see in the stove anyway. When it gets cold, the door cleans itself and you can see the pretty fire. No fuss, no muss.

True story!

 

[bholler]

Correct as usual , which is why we read you though not getting a BK stove due to specs.
Why is BKVP the only major maker rep online ?

However, most of us have little time to use moisture meters for checking every split used. We harvest, split, stack, the year before. Let the wood season, then burn the following winter. It does the job and has for decades for most species including oaks ( smaller splits). The flues here and elsewhere for long time wood burners have little creosote in the annual Spring brushing.
Sure the 'glass' gets gritty, but who cares. It burns off with careful, safe, hot burns.
Truth: the glass is cleaned for drinking friends and guest visits.

Englander and sbi are on here some and there are plenty of other manufacturer reps on elsewhere.

 

[allan5oh]

Looks like I'm loading in penticton Friday. Two questions:

1) does the Penticton location do factory tours?

2) need any freight moved to Ohio? My drop is just SE of Dayton. I have a flatbed but can tarp, but I'm not sure how much room I will have left.

 

[begreen]

Englander and sbi are on here some and there are plenty of other manufacturer reps on elsewhere.

stovelark is more on the sales side but offers good assistance for Jotul and Enviro owners.

 

[BKVP]

Looks like I'm loading in penticton Friday. Two questions:

1) does the Penticton location do factory tours?

2) need any freight moved to Ohio? My drop is just SE of Dayton. I have a flatbed but can tarp, but I'm not sure how much room I will have left.

We do not sell out of our factories.You would find it less costly nearer to your home. Sorry our warehouse shipments are in TN and go in very large enclosed trailers.