Heavy Hammer thanks.I always loved a good chain saw story.Rich L i ended up getting the 880 for helping a guy log one year that was my pay. I had an old 066 at the time that he kept running for me. About a week before Christmas a few years back he had me come over and there it was brand new in the box. Then a coupled months after that he had a just about brand new 660, he sold my 066 for $300 and I gave him another $500. it seems like I only end up cutting real big wood 3 to 4 foot diameter stuff. I just sold the 880 a few months ago to a buddy to start a saw mill and used that money for my new box scraper for my tractor. I almost never ran the 880 just not needed, the 660 can do the same job. Plus I have a couple 660's. My buddy that purchased the 880 also bought a 660, I tried talking him out of it but he insisted. Long story short his brother now has the saw and mill, he said having both saws is not needed.