Woodstock's New Stove - Last Minute Predicitions???

[spacecowboyIV]

Where is it that you are to send these name ideas?

 

[Todd]

Where is it that you are to send these name ideas?

[email protected]

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Or PM Dennis! I'll take care of it.

 

[fire_man]

Now I am getting excited. The BTU's seem like a pretty hefty improvement over the FV (80K vs 55K). The size only changed from 2.2 cu ft to 2.7 cu ft. For the life of me I cannot figure out how they got a 45% increase in Max BTU with only a 23% increase in firebox size. The efficiency improvement alone does not explain it.

Funny they did not post official log length - unless I missed it. I feel a hernia and ruptured disc will be on the way after moving that 615 lb beast. :grrr:

 

[raybonz]

Or PM Dennis! I'll take care of it.

Don't waste your time my suggestion is already in lol...

Ray

 

[Backwoods Savage]

No Ray. You will not win. I withdrew your name.

 

[raybonz]

No Ray. You will not win. I withdrew your name.

OK so that's how it gonna be eh?? The woodstove gloves are off let's take this outside ya filthy animal! lol

:coolgrin:

Ray "I'm gonna win that woodstove" Bonz

 

[Backwoods Savage]

We'll see about that one Ray. I'm coming out there soon.

 

[raybonz]

We'll see about that one Ray. I'm coming out there soon.

Dennis are referring to visiting Woodstock in September?

Ray

 

[Backwoods Savage]

That's it Ray. Looking forward to it too. We'll finally get a chance to meet in person. Are you supplying the beer?

 

[raybonz]

That's it Ray. Looking forward to it too. We'll finally get a chance to meet in person. Are you supplying the beer?

Ditto buddy! Yuh I paid for the brewski's and let Woodstock take the credit.. That's just the kind of guy I am

Ray

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Well, it won't break anyone supplying me with beer. Usually one is enough.

 

[raybonz]

Well, it won't break anyone supplying me with beer. Usually one is enough.

Yeah me 2 just 1 (30 pack) and my wife does not approve lol.. Dunno why??

Ray

 

[BrotherBart]

Oh great. Now it is an annual pilgrimage to the Temple of Fireview. :lol:

 

[fire_man]

He guys (Ray and Dennis): count me in for September, too! I wouldn't miss it. Great people, great food and beer, woodstove guts on display, everything perfect!

 

[raybonz]

He guys (Ray and Dennis): count me in for September, too! I wouldn't miss it. Great people, great food and beer, woodstove guts on display, everything perfect!

Sounds like a good time we need to drag Bart up there with us...

Ray

 

[BrotherBart]

Sounds like a good time we need to drag Bart up there with us...

The new stove is steel??? :coolgrin:

 

[Todd]

You guys sure they are having a bbq/open house? I haven't heard anything and I don't think it's an every year thingy?

 

[Todd]

Now I am getting excited. The BTU's seem like a pretty hefty improvement over the FV (80K vs 55K). The size only changed from 2.2 cu ft to 2.7 cu ft. For the life of me I cannot figure out how they got a 45% increase in Max BTU with only a 23% increase in firebox size. The efficiency improvement alone does not explain it.

Funny they did not post official log length - unless I missed it. I feel a hernia and ruptured disc will be on the way after moving that 615 lb beast. :grrr:

When I measured my Fireview's actual usable fire box I only came up with 1.8 cu ft so maybe the new stove has a more accurate measurement?

 

[Backwoods Savage]

He guys (Ray and Dennis): count me in for September, too! I wouldn't miss it. Great people, great food and beer, woodstove guts on display, everything perfect!

Hey Tony, that is great. I hope TJ comes with you too.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

You guys sure they are having a bbq/open house? I haven't heard anything and I don't think it's an every year thingy?

Todd, it is possible the open house could be early September or possibly into October. It appears the date has not been set for sure yet. I'll post if I find out the date.

We had a good time last year and are hoping more hearth.com guys go to the party. I'm pretty sure Craig will be there too.

 

[ddddddden]

I agree. The 2.7' is probably usable space, rather than a theoretical total volume like 2.2' for the FV. 2.7/1.8 = 1.5 x 55k = 82.5k btu. I suspect that the non-cat secondary combustion in the new stove may support higher peak burn rates than the cat in the FV will. As I understand it, a cat of a given size will burn only a certain amount of exhaust flow, and any exhaust in excess of that amount would pass through the cat unburned. My guess is that the new stove's secondary combustion can handle a higher rate of exhaust flow for higher peak btu's. I think this is why there are many non-cat stoves about the same size as the FV, like the PE Super, rated for ~70k btu. Of course, you would have to burn wood at a faster rate to support the higher output.

 

[ddddddden]

I agree. The 2.7' is probably usable space, rather than a theoretical total volume like 2.2' for the FV. 2.7/1.8 = 1.5 x 55k = 82.5k btu. I suspect that the non-cat secondary combustion in the new stove may support higher peak burn rates than the cat in the FV will. As I understand it, a cat of a given size will burn only a certain amount of exhaust flow, and any exhaust in excess of that amount would pass through the cat unburned. My guess is that the new stove's secondary combustion can handle a higher rate of exhaust flow for higher peak btu's. I think this is why there are many non-cat stoves about the same size as the FV, like the PE Super, rated for ~70k btu. Of course, you would have to burn wood at a faster rate to support the higher output.

 

[Todd]

That makes sense Den. I also noticed the low burn rate of 10,000 btu per hour is the same as my Keystones so it can also be turned way down to that low slow cat burn. I guess you get the best of both worlds. We should see some pictures of this beast soon.

 

[Todd]

Some more info on the new stove has a cut away of the new combustion system, pretty cool.

http://woodstocksoapstoneco.blogspot.com/