Woodstock Progress Hybrid with short legs install (pics)

[Nater]

I had ordered my Progress with the plinth base, but due to delays, they offered me one with short legs after looking at my hearth. So I went to pick up my Progress last Friday. They said it has <del>the upgraded butterfly valve</del> and the new door gasket. I got home early afternoon and since help was not available until Saturday, I tried to at least get it in the house. I made it to the from the back of my truck to the front porch before I called it a night, about 15 feet .

After help arrived on Saturday, we tried using an old dolly, but found it easier to just lay down 2x6's and slide the whole pallet into the house. After we got it inside, we got it all put together with the legs and heat shields. Then we lifted it from the pallet onto the hearth. The lintel of my fireplace is only 28.5" high, and luckily, the progress just fits. The lintel is actually touching the top of the stove. Since it had spent a night outside, I gave it the rest of the night to warm up to room temperature.

On Sunday, I did my 3 break in fires, which thanks to Dennis for his excellent directions, went without a hitch. The biggest fire I have done so far is the 3rd break in fire which only got to 400 degrees, which threw some serious heat. The stove is beautiful. It is nicer in person than seeing it in pictures. My wife likes it too, and she didn't like the look of the stone stoves before.

I'm sure I will have more to add later, but for now here are the pictures. The last picture is the lintel and the top of the stove.

Edit: DOES NOT have the new butterfly valve.

 

[fire_man]

Great Install, Nater! Looks really nice.

Do you have access to the cleanout T behind the stove? looks tight.

Can you tell us more about the updated butterfly valve?? How is it different?

 

[Nater]

I can't really tell you much about it. I've just been following the threads here and knew that some people had problems when turning down the air real low. So probably just a little more restrictive than the original. It is good to know they have been integrating the changes as they go forward.

 

[FireAnt]

Looks great! Sweet stove.

 

[MaintenanceMan]

Great looking stove and a beautiful hearth!

 

[Todd]

Great looking install. It will be interesting to find out how this new butterfly valve works out.

 

[Nater]

Thanks all. It is a big upgrade from what I had. I'm trying to find the thread where someone else said they were getting a new valve but now I can't find it. I asked about it and they weren't quite sure what I was talking about but said any updates up to this point were in my stove, so I assumed that I had it. Maybe I don't have the new valve? Or if there even is one? It does make an awful noise when adjusting, sounds like scraping metal on metal. Does anyone have a picture of their valve that I can compare to? I'll try to get a picture of mine but it is quite a squeeze the get behind the stove .

 

[Waulie]

I recall Binko was in discussion with WS about a different valve. Apparently, they have a coupled different ones but only one was approved with the EPA. So, you have the same one everybody has.

My dad's Progress draft made a bad sound too. It has mostly gone away now. In fact, when we first got his stove set up, you could rotate the draft past closed with a mean screatching noise. That has gone away now, too. Just remember that closed is suppose to be 90 degrees down from fully open.

 

[Nater]

I recall Binko was in discussion with WS about a different valve. Apparently, they have a coupled different ones but only one was approved with the EPA. So, you have the same one everybody has.

My dad's Progress draft made a bad sound too. It has mostly gone away now. In fact, when we first got his stove set up, you could rotate the draft past closed with a mean screatching noise. That has gone away now, too. Just remember that closed is suppose to be 90 degrees down from fully open.

I just talked to WS and I do have the standard valve. They said they have discussed a new valve but it is not past R&D at this point.

 

[Nater]

Great Install, Nater! Looks really nice.

Do you have access to the cleanout T behind the stove? looks tight.

Can you tell us more about the updated butterfly valve?? How is it different?

Just saw your other question...

It is tight but I can squeeze by. I was worried before I got it in that I would have to move the stove to get to it. That is NOT something I want to have to do again... ever.

 

[fire_man]

Nater: I hear you on never wanting to move that beast again. I hired movers , best $ I ever spent.

Glad you mentioned the valve earlier in this thread. I am pretty sure it was Binko who was supposed to get a different valve from WS. I looked aroung the threads but could not find it. Binko has a somewhat funky chimney setup, dynamic draft capability.

 

[Hiram Maxim]

Very nice looking!

Congrats

 

[pinewoodburner]

Nice looking stove. Keep us updated on how it works out for you.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Thanks for the pictures Nater. Beautiful.

You stated you slid the stove on some 2 x 6's. Is that also how you got the stove up onto the hearth? I ask because our hearth is 16" high so getting the stove up on there might pose a problem. For moving it we plan on using the piano dolly as we did with the Fireview. For lifting the Fireview we used 2 x 4's under the stove and a couple of really strong guys.

 

[Nater]

Thanks for the pictures Nater. Beautiful.

You stated you slid the stove on some 2 x 6's. Is that also how you got the stove up onto the hearth? I ask because our hearth is 16" high so getting the stove up on there might pose a problem. For moving it we plan on using the piano dolly as we did with the Fireview. For lifting the Fireview we used 2 x 4's under the stove and a couple of really strong guys.

Thanks! I'm working on my first fire right now after the 3 break in fires yesterday. It is only 40 out so it is quite warm in here tonight. It is giving quite a light show too. Such a difference going from an old steel stove with no window to this one. When the progress is at 450, it gives off at least, if not more. heat than when the old stove would read at 700+.

I used a piano dolly to get it from the back of my truck onto my porch. It didn't feel very stable as the dolly was smaller than the pallet, so I thats when I used the 2x6's. It slide fairly easy over and through the doorways. The pallet was the widest part and it was exactly 28", which was perfect for me since I have an old house with narrow doorways. Once we got it into the stove room, I assembled it in the middle of the room, minus the bottom plate and bottom heat shields. Then we slide the pallet to right in front of the hearth, which is about 7-8 inches high. Then the 3 of us lifted the stove into place, one on each side and one in the front. I've heard it weighs from 600-850 pounds. I would estimate it is closer to the lower end. Originally, I was planning on using some lifting straps or 2x4's like you did, but we ended up being able to get it in place without it.

 

[Backwoods Savage]

Nater, it sounds like you had no problem lifting. You no doubt did what we did by removing the top lid, taking out firebrick, removing firebox door, etc. Holy cow, just removing that top lid makes a bit difference as that thing is heavy. And the weight of the stove is somewhere around 700. I think just over 700 and maybe 720.

On the piano dolly, I've seen them different sizes and if they are too small then it can be a problem. I put 2 ratchet straps on the sides and the ends to hold it onto the dolly and that also allowed one person to pull on the straps while getting it up onto the porch.

 

[corey21]

Very nice stove and install.

 

[DPBurn]

Nice install & looking stove ... I am just updating my hearth in preparation for a Woodstock stove, right now I am
leaning towards the fireview, what are the big advantages to the Progress ?

Thanks,
DPBurn

 

[Nater]

Nater, it sounds like you had no problem lifting. You no doubt did what we did by removing the top lid, taking out firebrick, removing firebox door, etc. Holy cow, just removing that top lid makes a bit difference as that thing is heavy. And the weight of the stove is somewhere around 700. I think just over 700 and maybe 720.

On the piano dolly, I've seen them different sizes and if they are too small then it can be a problem. I put 2 ratchet straps on the sides and the ends to hold it onto the dolly and that also allowed one person to pull on the straps while getting it up onto the porch.

I left most of the stove together. I hadn't installed the top yet (comes packed separately) , or the bottom plate or bottom heat shield (also packed separately). The firebricks, door, etc, were still there. Luckily, since it was still on the pallet in front of the hearth, we only had to lift it up about 4-5 inches and then back about 2 feet. If we had to move it any further than that, we would probably have devised a different system. I also used ratchet straps to secure the stove to the pallet.

The other minor difference I have noticed is I have a brass door handle to match the bypass handle. I noticed the earlier ones have a silver door handle with a brass bypass handle.

 

[Nater]

Nice install & looking stove ... I am just updating my hearth in preparation for a Woodstock stove, right now I am
leaning towards the fireview, what are the big advantages to the Progress ?

Thanks,
DPBurn

Thanks! I am don't know much about the Fireview but I am very happy with the Progress, and Woodstock as a company. The Progress has the secondary burn and a catalyst, where the Fireview only has a cat. The Progress is also bigger and puts out more heat. The wife likes the look of the Progress better . Dennis (Backwoods Savage) has a Fireview and has a Progress on order. I'm sure he could give you a better comparison than I could.

How big is your house and how well insulated?

 

[WellSeasoned]

Beautiful stove. I love the brick design to.

 

[cowtown]

Looks really good - do you need a hearth pad in front?

 

[Nater]

Beautiful stove. I love the brick design to.

Thanks! The fireplace is about 200 years old.

 

[Nater]

Looks really good - do you need a hearth pad in front?

No, with the ashlip only 8" of clearance is needed and since the hearth is raised, I did not need one. It does however need slightly more ember protection around the door. I have something there temporary, but it is not in the pictures.

 

[HollowHill]

Looks really good - do you need a hearth pad in front?

No, with the ashlip only 8" of clearance is needed and since the hearth is raised, I did not need one. It does however need slightly more ember protection around the door. I have something there temporary, but it is not in the pictures.

So, it's still 8" clearance with the short legs? Seems like it would be at least the 8" + 5" (lost leg height), but then again, maybe this is why I'm not an engineer and can't even play one on TV :lol: