wood haulin' trailer

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

Anybody know how much a cord of dry oak weighs? How 'bout a cord of green oak?

I am looking at getting a better trailer for hauling wood out of the woods, among other things. Just curious how much wood 2990 lbs translates to in cords.

 

[smokinj]

oak would be in the 3500lbs seasoned.

 

[gzecc]

I've seen a 2 ton # for white oak.

 

[SolarAndWood]

oak would be in the 3500lbs seasoned.

Isn't it more than twice that green? Don't know for sure about the weight, but dumping a load of fresh oak is similar to dumping a load of highly organic material from my buddies former dairy farm. Hasn't bent my 5000 lb axle but I did find a bad weld in the frame.

 

[peterc38]

Seems to me I saw somewhere a cord of green red oak weighs 4,600 lbs but I been wrong before.

 

[LLigetfa]

Google is your friend.

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Oak, Live 34.4 - 36.6 MBTU, 3766 - 4840 lbs dry, 6120 - 7870 lbs green

 

[peterc38]

I guess it depends what chart you look at. This one states 4,888 .lbs for green Red Oak.

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[LLigetfa]

I guess it depends what chart you look at. This one states 4,888 .lbs for green Red Oak.

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Did you find it with Google?

I rest my case.

 

[peterc38]

I guess it depends what chart you look at. This one states 4,888 .lbs for green Red Oak.

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Did you find it with Google?

I rest my case.

What case? I didn't even know I was on trial. Yeah I found it with google, so what? My point was there are a lot of different charts and many of them list different weights. Who is to say which one is right, you?
The OP did not even specify what type of oak.

 

[Mesquite]

Google is your friend.

(broken link removed to http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/home/heating_cooling/firewood.html)

Oak, Live 34.4 - 36.6 MBTU, 3766 - 4840 lbs dry, 6120 - 7870 lbs green

I think the OP is far too north to have Live Oak trees. They exist more in southern and warmer climates. May be mistaken though.

 

[LLigetfa]

Who is to say which one is right, you?
The OP did not even specify what type of oak.

No, not me. I don't claim to have the right answer. Someone posting numbers on the internet doesn't make it true, even if Google finds it.

That is my point.

 

[zzr7ky]

Hi -

My 1953 GM Truck order guide said 4-5,000 for Green hardwood.

I use a single axle that is very easy to overload or load in a dangerous fashion. The axle is to far forward in my estimation. This causes me to make more trips once in a while. Since I rarely haul more than a mile I just don't care.

If you are hauling far, or routinely hauling large loads of grean hardwood then I'd look at a tandem axxle. If not the single axle is much easier to move about.

ATB,
Mike

 

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

Thanks Mike,

Yes, I'm routinely hauling it 20 miles or so.

Tandem Axle? Hmmm. I don't think so. There are other uses that I will engage this trailer in - such as hauling bikes and camping gear. I just don't know if I want the hassles of a tandem axle under those conditions.

To the other's who seem to be intent on squabbling over wood weights. I think I got my information. It just doesn't seem that a 5x10 trailer rated to 2990 GVWR will be capable of hauling a full cord.

Wood is heavier than I thought. I've got a Dodge Dakota Club Cab (short box) plus a weenie little 4x6 trailer. I fill box the truck box & the trailer. I'm probably overweight with them then. Oncoming drivers flash their brights at me thinking that I've got mine on, when it's simply the tilt of the truck.

 

[smokinj]

Thanks Mike,

Yes, I'm routinely hauling it 20 miles or so.

Tandem Axle? Hmmm. I don't think so. There are other uses that I will engage this trailer in - such as hauling bikes and camping gear. I just don't know if I want the hassles of a tandem axle under those conditions.

To the other's who seem to be intent on squabbling over wood weights. I think I got my information. It just doesn't seem that a 5x10 trailer rated to 2990 GVWR will be capable of hauling a full cord.

Wood is heavier than I thought. I've got a Dodge Dakota Club Cab (short box) plus a weenie little 4x6 trailer. I fill box the truck box & the trailer. I'm probably overweight with them then. Oncoming drivers flash their brights at me thinking that I've got mine on, when it's simply the tilt of the truck.

I am running a 4x8x3 with a s-10 I can get a cord of most woods on there but some of the heavier hardwoods about 3/4. Its a 1971 boat trailer converted.

 

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

OK, Next question.

Do you fellas have any recommendations on trailer brands?

There's a trailer "dealer" in my area that has Dominator brand trailers. They've got nice 2x8 treated wood floor and sides. He's asking $1660 for a 5x10.

Then there's Tractor Supply which has Carry On brand. TSC has a 5X10 with a wood bottom and just angle iron sides for $1050.

Both have the same 2990# GVWR.

Sometimes the extra $600 is worth it. Sometimes you just pay more for nothin'.

 

[smokinj]

3000 lb sideds will need to be 24-36 in high. The tsc the wood will just fall out, so if the 1660.00 will hold the wood out of the gate then thats the way I would go.

 

[JeffRey30747]

Also, keep in mind that the 2990# GVWR includes the weight of the trailer so you have to subtract that to get the true "allowable" payload. You might want to compare unladen trailer weights too.

 

[gzecc]

BJJ, look for a used trailer. It won't depreciate as much, and you won't have to worry about scratching it!

 

[K2Orion]

You could probably find a trailer built from an old pickup bed for next to nothing. I tried selling my old 1 on CL for $50 and nobody wanted it. I spent more than that on the title so I just kept the title and tongue where the VIN sticker is and scrapped the rest. And I know you can get a cord in a pickup bed and not overload it. ;-)

 

[gpcollen1]

Hey BJJ...

I was in the same boat about 4 years ago looking for a trailer. I wanted the Bri-Mar dump, available locally, but that trailer already weighed 3000# and would have been a bit heavy when empty pulling it with my 4Runner, let alone when full. I went with the solid 5x8, sides go up about 18" and I extended the sides up to 3.5 feet.

I loaded that thing up with ash once on a 20 mile trek home and it was pushing it. Then I did it with oak and I know it was a bad idea, even from 1 mile away. I am now happy with hauling half to 2/3 cord of fresh wood in it, even though a tad over weight. I just watch how it sits as i load it and don't go overboard. I got the landscape gate so i could roll the big rounds right up and then throw the smaller stuff on top. Works out pretty well.

As for other uses, I use it for camping, loads of mulch, sand or whatever. Great little trailer for $1150 at the time. I am thinking about getting it Rhino lined.

 

[woolybugger141]

I have used these in my trucks and trailers they work great without comprimising the ride. check it out www.timbren.com

 

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

Woolybuggar,

Thanks for the link. Boy, I got this woodstove so that I could save money on the heat bills. But it's turnin' out to be an even better blessing than I thought. It's the gift the keeps on giving. . . giving me excuses to buy more stuff.

 

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

K2Orion,

You can get a cord in a pickup bed w/o overloading it? I think the estimates on this thread are 3500# for a cord of seasoned oak, and over 4800# green. That 3500# translates to 1.75 ton, that's a serious pickup truck.

 

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

gzecc,

For whatever reason, used trailers hold their value around here. I've been watching the want-ads and it's slim pickins. The converted pick-up beds might not be a bad idea, except I was hopin' that a 5x10 or 6x10 could fit more wood.

 

[Justin M]

These look like they would are built well, but are still limited to the 2990lb rating. They are out of Wisconsin too.