Where can I get an AMERICAN MADE log jack?
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Edit: I'm hesitant to help because of the racist way you phrased your question, but it turns out my Dixie Jack was made in the USA. Apparently it is still made in the USA under the Columbus McKinnon name.
http://www.cmworks.com/rigging/?catid=1270
Edit: I'm hesitant to help because of the racist way you phrased your question, but it turns out my Dixie Jack was made in the USA. Apparently it is still made in the USA under the Columbus McKinnon name.
http://www.cmworks.com/rigging/?catid=1270
Sorry, if my question came across crass - sometimes its tough to write clearly on a message board. What I mean is that mainland China uses a particular gauge corrugate and even printing technique, which I am rather familiar with. Not only do I want to keep jobs in AMERICA but I've had horrible luck keeping Chinese tools running for more than a couple uses without failure. You may have better luck but for me my money is better spent on long lasting tools that keep jobs on our shore.
I used one of the TSC all metal logjacks/timberjacks for a week...
...before the handle ripped apart where it screws together.
The wood handled and fiberglass handled timberjacks haven't failed me yet. AFAIK, it's not made in the USA, but this fiberglass handled model form Northern Tool has taken a lot of abuse over the past 3 years and is MUCH BEEFIER than it looks in the picture:
Northern Industrial Timberjack with Fiberglass Handle — 4Ft.L
...before the handle ripped apart where it screws together.
The wood handled and fiberglass handled timberjacks haven't failed me yet. AFAIK, it's not made in the USA, but this fiberglass handled model form Northern Tool has taken a lot of abuse over the past 3 years and is MUCH BEEFIER than it looks in the picture:
Northern Industrial Timberjack with Fiberglass Handle — 4Ft.L
TreePointer said:
It's owners manual says made in China.
I have one of Northern's metal timber jacks. The hinge pocket tore out on a not too big of a log. I decided enough was enough and bought a US made Logrite cant hook. I also decided I could do without the timber jack function. It's an extra cost bolt on option for the Logrite cant hooks and peaveys.
Baileys has them.
http://www.baileysonline.com/
Your question was not "racist" at all. Silly to think it was so, especially if you read the title of the thread.
Woodchuck timberjacks are also made in the USSA
Woodchuck timberjacks are also made in the USSA
a friend had one from harbor freight or tsc I cant remember. We took it and basically 2x every dimension and made it out of 1/4 plate and heavy steel pipe. It's not light but it'll last a lifetime.
2nd vote for Log-Rite. Just got mine in the mail a week ago havent used it yet but my jaw pretty much dropped the first time I hefted it. Got the 60" cant hook with the log jack attachment http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=CH+060&catID=163 it was just on sale but seems to be over now. My BIL had the TSC logjack and his broke in short order. Logrite handles are lifetime warrantied as well, and made in USA.
If hickory is more your style (and I am surprised no one has mentioned it yet) then go for the Peavey Mfg log jack http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=15810&catID=11507 I think last I checked though it was cheaper to order straight from peavey.
Good luck, there are plenty of good american choices out there. And they really arent that expensive when you consider replacing the cheapie ones 3 times.
If hickory is more your style (and I am surprised no one has mentioned it yet) then go for the Peavey Mfg log jack http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=15810&catID=11507 I think last I checked though it was cheaper to order straight from peavey.
Good luck, there are plenty of good american choices out there. And they really arent that expensive when you consider replacing the cheapie ones 3 times.
Gotta give another vote for Log-rite, and make sure to mention the originals from Peavey.(broken link removed to http://www.peaveymfg.com/timberjack.html)
I don't think your question was at all racist. The Chineese make garbage and nobody wants to buy garbage made by slaves in a communist country.
For the record, I bought one of those Northern tool COMMUNIST CHINEESE SLAVE LABOR made timberjacks several years back. The garbage Chineese steel handle, bent right at the hook hinge on the first log it was used on. I figured for bucking small stuff it would be strong enough..LOL
China crap is china crap.
Tractor supply(Chins house of cheap garbage) sells a different brand of chineese garbage, but renaming a terd dosn't change the stench.
If ya like wood handles, the Peavey and dixie brand are outstanding. Dixie can be bought through any Do-It hard ware. Log-Rite Aluminum handles are lighter though, and I'll be darned if I can bend or break one.
I don't think your question was at all racist. The Chineese make garbage and nobody wants to buy garbage made by slaves in a communist country.
For the record, I bought one of those Northern tool COMMUNIST CHINEESE SLAVE LABOR made timberjacks several years back. The garbage Chineese steel handle, bent right at the hook hinge on the first log it was used on. I figured for bucking small stuff it would be strong enough..LOL
China crap is china crap.Tractor supply(Chins house of cheap garbage) sells a different brand of chineese garbage, but renaming a terd dosn't change the stench.
If ya like wood handles, the Peavey and dixie brand are outstanding. Dixie can be bought through any Do-It hard ware. Log-Rite Aluminum handles are lighter though, and I'll be darned if I can bend or break one.
I've always been taught that whenever a statement can be interpretted different ways, we have an
It think when the context of post is American made products, this bit of evidence suggests that the phrase "box looks awfully Chinese" can be interpretted to mean box looks like it was made in China, and therefore the product was made there also.
To assume that products made in China are inferior is not racist because it can imply that you think the Chinese political/economic system produces inferior items. Believe me, if the U.S. had China's government our products would be junk too. It has nothing to do with the character of the people.
to assume the best intentions of the person making the statement, until evidence suggests otherwise. To assume someone is racist is a bit prejudiced don't you think?
It think when the context of post is American made products, this bit of evidence suggests that the phrase "box looks awfully Chinese" can be interpretted to mean box looks like it was made in China, and therefore the product was made there also.
To assume that products made in China are inferior is not racist because it can imply that you think the Chinese political/economic system produces inferior items. Believe me, if the U.S. had China's government our products would be junk too. It has nothing to do with the character of the people.
Black Jaque Janaviac said:
Sorry, but isn't their government. It's our sellers.
The Chinese are perfectly capable of making high quality products. They are also perfectly willing to make low cost junk. The real problem lies here, with our retailers who prefer to buy the junk and sell it to us. US businesses could easily make sure the products they sell are of high quality, but far too many of them take the low road and sell whatever the all-too-gullible-public is willing to buy. As a result, we are offered junk, and many of our quality manufacturers have been driven out of business or seen their market shrivel to a fraction of what it once was.
And our government has done virtually nothing to stop any of this.
Hi all
Thought i would wade into the chineese junk debate. I hate all the chineese junk on the market,have been trying very hard for the last 5yrs or longer not to buy chineese,very hard and you have to ask about everything...and i mean everything.
When i was growing up my parents,and grownups around our little bit of civilization where dead set against buying products from USSR,which was a communist country.The main resone was communisum was against the values and belifes of free people,some of the US residents will probly remember the anticommunisim sentiments that were around in the 50's 60's.
Second reason it wasn't that good.
The chineese own alot of the USA now and hold paper on alot of the US's debt.This was all paid for by the northamerican shoppers at Walmart ect.I wounder how much of the products have already run their life and are sitting in landfills.
Yes they can make quality products,but northamerica used to make quality products as well.
Some examples of being blindsided by chineese products.
Ordered complete palet of new brake parts for my Mack dumptruck,shipped 1700 miles,needed truck for work,picked up pallet first thing i see is Made in China stickers all over the brake shoes,looked at the drums cast right in them is Made in China.I was pissed,couldn't ship them back and meet my work comitments.
Needed a hose for my backhoe two hoses that make thew bend over the main joint one started to leak when i was digging the ditch for my underground heating lines,drive 100 miles to get one made,found the only shop that had the fittings,decided to get both hoses,the next one probly is not long for the world.Get home with the hoses and begine to install one and as i'm turning it to line up i see ...Made in China on the hose ..@#%@#
Boiught a wrecked truck from insurance to rebuild for the wife,needs a winshield,picked one up when i was in the big city,on sale ye ha the truck is going to be a better deal already.They wrapped the windshield for the drive home.Got everything preped for install,glue warm opening cleaned,unwrapped windshield and cleaned backside,applied glue to truck,set windsield in glue everything went great untill i go to remove the parts tag...Made in China....aw for @#$%&@##$ sake.
So i'm at a loss of what they don't ship over here.Like i said i try very hard not to buy chineese,yet see above.
Our govrnments need to protect our countrys from this garbage but they don't,The Japenesse have very strict specs for anything that gets imported into Japan,seems to work for them.The garbage i see from China shouldn't make it's way into Northamerica,and our landfills.
End of Rant
Thomas
Thought i would wade into the chineese junk debate. I hate all the chineese junk on the market,have been trying very hard for the last 5yrs or longer not to buy chineese,very hard and you have to ask about everything...and i mean everything.
When i was growing up my parents,and grownups around our little bit of civilization where dead set against buying products from USSR,which was a communist country.The main resone was communisum was against the values and belifes of free people,some of the US residents will probly remember the anticommunisim sentiments that were around in the 50's 60's.
Second reason it wasn't that good.
The chineese own alot of the USA now and hold paper on alot of the US's debt.This was all paid for by the northamerican shoppers at Walmart ect.I wounder how much of the products have already run their life and are sitting in landfills.
Yes they can make quality products,but northamerica used to make quality products as well.
Some examples of being blindsided by chineese products.
Ordered complete palet of new brake parts for my Mack dumptruck,shipped 1700 miles,needed truck for work,picked up pallet first thing i see is Made in China stickers all over the brake shoes,looked at the drums cast right in them is Made in China.I was pissed,couldn't ship them back and meet my work comitments.
Needed a hose for my backhoe two hoses that make thew bend over the main joint one started to leak when i was digging the ditch for my underground heating lines,drive 100 miles to get one made,found the only shop that had the fittings,decided to get both hoses,the next one probly is not long for the world.Get home with the hoses and begine to install one and as i'm turning it to line up i see ...Made in China on the hose ..@#%@#
Boiught a wrecked truck from insurance to rebuild for the wife,needs a winshield,picked one up when i was in the big city,on sale ye ha the truck is going to be a better deal already.They wrapped the windshield for the drive home.Got everything preped for install,glue warm opening cleaned,unwrapped windshield and cleaned backside,applied glue to truck,set windsield in glue everything went great untill i go to remove the parts tag...Made in China....aw for @#$%&@##$ sake.
So i'm at a loss of what they don't ship over here.Like i said i try very hard not to buy chineese,yet see above.
Our govrnments need to protect our countrys from this garbage but they don't,The Japenesse have very strict specs for anything that gets imported into Japan,seems to work for them.The garbage i see from China shouldn't make it's way into Northamerica,and our landfills.
End of Rant
Thomas
I have the TSC all steel Swisher Log Jack...works great and is plenty strong...I've moved some stuff that I had no business moving alone with that thing and it doesn't complain. I have no idea where it was made though, their website doesn't say so I'll have a look when I go home.
Logrite is a really nice american made tool.
Also, if you like wooden handle tools, they are still making them in Maine and the company still bears the name of the guy that invented the peavey.
http://peaveymfg.com/
Also, if you like wooden handle tools, they are still making them in Maine and the company still bears the name of the guy that invented the peavey.
http://peaveymfg.com/
I stopped in at a dealer that sold some good wood handled cant hooks, as well as LogRite. After handling them both I didn't think twice about plunking down the extra $40 for the LogRite. I'm a pretty big guy, and have moved some pretty big logs with it. I have also NOT moved some pretty big stuff (4'+ red oak rounds that I had to noodle). If I haven't broken it yet, I don't think I can.
The log stand is a bolt on accessory, and I'm sure a high quality piece, too.
The log stand is a bolt on accessory, and I'm sure a high quality piece, too.
I have the 60" Logrite peavey with stand. The Logrite is very well built and rugged. I imagine it will outlast me. However, after using the stand a couple times I have found my preference is just to cut 75-80% of the way through the log, roll it, then finish my cuts. It is a lot faster that way for me. So for me, in retrospect, very glad I bought the Logrite peavey, could have done without the stand.
I read a lot of bias into the initial post. I wouldn't have been hesitant to respond to -
"I like to support American manufacturing jobs. Which log jacks made here?"
or
"I want a really good log jack. Which ones should I look at?"
I personally like to support American manufacturing jobs and good tools myself!
The OP may have meant nothing by what he said. If so I apologize. I'll admit my reaction was probably colored because of some of the other forums I hang out on. I drive a Toyota made by UAW labor in the USA and get a lot of grief about being unamerican for buying an 'import' from xenophobic folks driving Dodge Rams (often made in Mexico by a German or Italian company with no more 'domestic content' than my Toyota).
However, several of the ranting posters in this thread have demonstrated exactly what I meant. American's can make crap and American's can make great quality goods. I've bought both. Chinese can make crap and Chinese can make great quality goods. Again, I've bought both.
Milwaukee, Powermatic, Porter Cable, Stihl, Timken, IBM, Dell, Lenovo, Sony, Samsung, Motorola, Honda, etc, etc, etc all sell fine quality goods made in China.
Harbor Freight quality control means picking through four 'identical' items on the shelf till you find one that is forged straight & drilled center.
Quality comes down to management, specifications, quality control, and price point. If you want to buy a $25 log jack... someone in China can make one for $5, someone can stamp a brand on it for $5, ship it to the store for $5, and the store can mark it up $10 and sell it to you. If you want to buy a $120 log jack, someone in the USA OR China could produce a REALLY good one for $100. Much of the management in this country attended American business schools and has decided to 'maximize profits' and cheapened stuff to the point it is crap. That means that many goods won't be made in this country at all anymore and to reduce costs even further they accept crap for tolerances and quality control out of the factories in China. I don't blame the Chinese people for making exactly what our business leaders ask them to make.
"I like to support American manufacturing jobs. Which log jacks made here?"
or
"I want a really good log jack. Which ones should I look at?"
I personally like to support American manufacturing jobs and good tools myself!
The OP may have meant nothing by what he said. If so I apologize. I'll admit my reaction was probably colored because of some of the other forums I hang out on. I drive a Toyota made by UAW labor in the USA and get a lot of grief about being unamerican for buying an 'import' from xenophobic folks driving Dodge Rams (often made in Mexico by a German or Italian company with no more 'domestic content' than my Toyota).
However, several of the ranting posters in this thread have demonstrated exactly what I meant. American's can make crap and American's can make great quality goods. I've bought both. Chinese can make crap and Chinese can make great quality goods. Again, I've bought both.
Milwaukee, Powermatic, Porter Cable, Stihl, Timken, IBM, Dell, Lenovo, Sony, Samsung, Motorola, Honda, etc, etc, etc all sell fine quality goods made in China.
Harbor Freight quality control means picking through four 'identical' items on the shelf till you find one that is forged straight & drilled center.
Quality comes down to management, specifications, quality control, and price point. If you want to buy a $25 log jack... someone in China can make one for $5, someone can stamp a brand on it for $5, ship it to the store for $5, and the store can mark it up $10 and sell it to you. If you want to buy a $120 log jack, someone in the USA OR China could produce a REALLY good one for $100. Much of the management in this country attended American business schools and has decided to 'maximize profits' and cheapened stuff to the point it is crap. That means that many goods won't be made in this country at all anymore and to reduce costs even further they accept crap for tolerances and quality control out of the factories in China. I don't blame the Chinese people for making exactly what our business leaders ask them to make.
Naandme
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Here is a slur, SCREW THE chinese We have given most of our knowledge to them and I personally dont like it I try my hardest not to buy thier junk I am disgusted with our ideas that it is ok to buy it to save a dollar. Also with our goverment that continues to allow the so called free trade Thats a joke so screw them all!!
peterc38 said:
Good stuff and nice people too. When I called to order my hookeroon and the person who answered was very nice and helpful. She even sked everybody else there what they thought would be the best one for me. Shipping was fast and very cheap too!
Dieselhead
Minister of Fire
i can absolutely tell when a product is made in china just by the look of the cardboard box also. That would make it chinese looking to me . naandme preach on brother
I use a Columbus McKinnon Cant Hook 4 ft. It is American made . The thing will outlast me. I have used it to roll logs that were 50" diameter - it took two of us to roll it. Also, I agree with peterc38 it is faster to cut thru most the way then roll the log to finish.
I've got a 4 1/2' Peavey cant hook...cut the logs through 3/4 of the way and roll'em. But...50"....I know I'm a wimp now! :bug:bigdaa said:
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