What are you burning......It’s not a trap....really...
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not sure how many cords, but its all 4/4 lumber chunks red.white oak, hickory, walnut, jatoba
not sure how many cords, but its all 4/4 lumber chunks red.white oak, hickory, walnut, jatoba
Naploeon 1400 Pedestal. 1900 sq ft, 2 story home built in 1908. Pine, oak, cottonwood (in a pinch since there is so much of it around here), and I just discovered pinion. Was down in New Mexico over the weekend, have always liked the nice, even heat and scent, so grabbed a a few pieces for home. Holy cow, this stuff is awesome. It produced far more heat, for longer, with less, than anything. I am fairly aware of the BTU charts and where wood types fall on the scale, Cottonwood being quite crummy, pine in the lower middle, seasoned oak is upper crust. But this pinion blew me away. I placed the first piece in my stove, walked away for a few minutes, came back to find the flu temp thermometer had flown up to very, very warm. It stayed there over a long time. I had to damper it down to the lowest air flow, and it was just flat producing in ways I have not seen with other types of wood.
Fed the stove two pieces at bedtime, and as it was below 0 last eve, I knew I'd have to get up after 4-5 hours and feed some more, walked in, and it was still producing. Fed a single piece, went back to sleep, and ended up watching the stove produce for almost 11 hours. The house was uncharacteristically toasty, and this on a frigid night when I anticipated the opposite.
Was brought to my attention by a friend who burns it in his home in NM that that the wood contains resins (from the ones that have been beetle infested) and amber, and this contributes to the resiliency. All I can say is wow... I have never had this stove produce that well for that long, and on 1/2 the load. As I harvest my own stuff, am now looking to make a journey to NM to harvest more of this stuff. I thought my seasoned oak was the berries... but the small store of pinion I burned the last two days blew me away. Plus, the scent is great....
Fed the stove two pieces at bedtime, and as it was below 0 last eve, I knew I'd have to get up after 4-5 hours and feed some more, walked in, and it was still producing. Fed a single piece, went back to sleep, and ended up watching the stove produce for almost 11 hours. The house was uncharacteristically toasty, and this on a frigid night when I anticipated the opposite.
Was brought to my attention by a friend who burns it in his home in NM that that the wood contains resins (from the ones that have been beetle infested) and amber, and this contributes to the resiliency. All I can say is wow... I have never had this stove produce that well for that long, and on 1/2 the load. As I harvest my own stuff, am now looking to make a journey to NM to harvest more of this stuff. I thought my seasoned oak was the berries... but the small store of pinion I burned the last two days blew me away. Plus, the scent is great....
drhiii said:
Sssshhhhh... it's our secret!
Every year I scrape up a few stoveloads worth of hardwood - apple this year. Last night I loaded the Morso up with apple. It was interesting to see blue flames again... but heat-wise I was very glad to get back to the pinon which is 99% of my wood supply. It IS a wonderful-burning fuel, though a bit pitchy in the knots...
Maybe we can trade for some nice oak...
BrotherBart said:GVA said:HeHeHe.....That there is funny............BrotherBart said:
My neighbor works out of their house. Her office is downstairs in the family room where the wood stove is. They don't cut any wood anymore. They buy it all and deduct it because it heats her office. So what if the heat goes upstairs after it leaves the office and just happens to heat the rest of the house.
Awesome, I bet I can do the same thing....I wonder if I can write off the insert also? The basement has been converted to my office and that just happens to be where the fireplace (now insert) lives....hmmmmm...
Hmm, may I ask where in NM you harvest? North, south, care to divulge to within say, 100 miles, heh? Am looking for sources closer to the Colorado front range border starting around Raton. Have just started asking around where are locations to harvest after getting my mitts on this wonderful wood two days ago. Got it from a friend who lives near Abiquiu.
And, oak? Hmmm. Will say I placed a split of pinion and a split of oak next to each other in my Napoleon, and it produced, no kidding, for 8 hours. It is 13 out right now, and this combo is producing better than anything I have tried before. Sooo, some oak?
And, oak? Hmmm. Will say I placed a split of pinion and a split of oak next to each other in my Napoleon, and it produced, no kidding, for 8 hours. It is 13 out right now, and this combo is producing better than anything I have tried before. Sooo, some oak?
precaud said:drhiii said:
Sssshhhhh... it's our secret!
Every year I scrape up a few stoveloads worth of hardwood - apple this year. Last night I loaded the Morso up with apple. It was interesting to see blue flames again... but heat-wise I was very glad to get back to the pinon which is 99% of my wood supply. It IS a wonderful-burning fuel, though a bit pitchy in the knots...
Maybe we can trade for some nice oak...
I usually gather in a 25 mile radius around Santa Fe, where I live. There are millions of standing dead pinons here from the drought and bark beetle infestation earlier this decade. The commercial woodcutters won't touch them, so it's fat pickins right now. I got 5+ cords from a field 3.5 miles from the house this year. I usually harvest in the spring to burn later that year, but started piling this year and plan to continue in the spring. Gotta get them out of the ground before the rot sets in.drhiii said:
Should be plenty of pinon up that way. There's nice oak up there too, I used to drive up to Tierra Amarilla to get oak logs, back when gas was cheap... ;-)
Good time for a nice combo, it's a chiller tonight, for sure. I especially like pinon rounds. Burns as long as oak but hotter.
Actually, the thing to do is contact the NM Forest Ranger office in the county where you want to gather and buy a $20 permit. They'll give you a map to the fuelwood area and you can take up to 5 cords over the calendar year.
Pinon is a great burn. People in the East can't appreciate the quality. If you're in that area with kids, are you having them gather pine nuts? That's the treat for all. Careful to load up with creisote or desert olive or you get quick heat and fast burn.
precaud said:
Last year house only; P68- 5 tons, oil boiler- 700 gallons, propane instant hot water heater-200 gallons .
This year house and office; PB105 Pellet Boiler for heat and hot water, and P68 in house, Optima 2 in office. Guestimating 10-12 ton.
Looking to save about $800-$1000 this year alone...
This year house and office; PB105 Pellet Boiler for heat and hot water, and P68 in house, Optima 2 in office. Guestimating 10-12 ton.
Looking to save about $800-$1000 this year alone...
I burn this funky stuff called WOOD - 
mostly scrounged or purchased loglength, so not sure just what a good bit of it is, think it's mostly oak and maple w/ a bit of pine, elm chokecherry, birch and goddess knows what else mixed in. Also a few logs made with this gizmo that rolls up newspapers and junk mail - those don't impress me that much, but since I made them I'll burn them, probably will just let them recycle the papers next year as the roller thing was more work than splitting, and the "logs" don't burn all that well.
Probably done about 2-2.5 cords so far, if the weather had been normal might have been twice that.
Old pre-epa smoke dragon.
Gooserider
mostly scrounged or purchased loglength, so not sure just what a good bit of it is, think it's mostly oak and maple w/ a bit of pine, elm chokecherry, birch and goddess knows what else mixed in. Also a few logs made with this gizmo that rolls up newspapers and junk mail - those don't impress me that much, but since I made them I'll burn them, probably will just let them recycle the papers next year as the roller thing was more work than splitting, and the "logs" don't burn all that well.Probably done about 2-2.5 cords so far, if the weather had been normal might have been twice that.
Old pre-epa smoke dragon.
Gooserider
Usually whatever scrap lumber I can find, plywood, pressure treated decking, old docks, them blownout recaps ya see on the highway. Major score this year, couple hundred old railroad ties. Burn real hot, but hard on saw chains.
1300 sq'
2-3 cords
Locust, Cherry, Ash, Oak, Larch, other trees I haven't identified yet.
Man, I wish pinion grew around here. Sounds like great wood.
2-3 cords
Locust, Cherry, Ash, Oak, Larch, other trees I haven't identified yet.
Man, I wish pinion grew around here. Sounds like great wood.
This is a 2007 thread that hoss rekindled when he got bored pulling the tire shreds out of his auger. Nothing new here.
1300 sqft heated with 5 cord (always 77+ in most of the house). Mostly maple, some oak, smidgen of birch. 500 sqft finished basement heated only when the oil furnace kicks on (rarely). Oil hot water heater. Total oil usage since Oct 09 about 140 gals.
I burned every hardwood but red oak, Im seasoning that for next year, have about two cords seasoned one year. My house is 2900 sf and I used almost three cords and a little over 300 gallons of oil (also use for hot water). Much better than the 800+ gallons I used to go through in a year.
hossthehermit said:
A few days of rain before several days of warmth and sun . . . a little bad with the good . . . although come to think of it this should help green up the grass and help with the wildfire situation.
Oh yeah . . . still burning hardwood . . . mostly taking the bit of chill out of the air today though.
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