thanks guys for all the help, i will let you know how it turns out as saturday is the day i am attempting this project, going to buy a metal file first to try to get the existing rod witch is either 3/16 or 1/4 out of the stove as it wont fit through the exit hole due to the jaggedness due to its breaking off the srapper, then i will pick up a tap and die set and cross my fingers, but first tommorw i will call englander, thanks again from a very appreciative forum member you guys all have MacGyver status in my book..