Trouble firing up Froling

[maple1]

Still boggles my mind, the lack of dealer input/guidance for this.

 

[biothermic]

Good day everyone. This is my first post on this forum.

We are the Ontario dealer that's supporting stefan66.

We are currently trouble shooting a non-standard installation. We typically support a 230V main boiler circulator. In stefan66's case, the FHG boiler is replacing his old boiler which had a 115V circulator. Since the FHG Lambdatronic is designed to control a 230V circulator a control system is required when running a 115V circulator (eg. ESB). At this point we do not provide a control system for this application.

We are working with stefan66 to find a solution to his problem.

Thanks,
Mike

 

[maple1]

I think a 120v installation would be a much more 'standard' - or common if you will - install on this side of the pond.

I also think you need to be able to provide a 120v capable control solution selling in this country. I don't know of anyone running any kind of boiler (wood or oil) around me that has 240v running to it, or that is using 240v pumps. Hopefully this will be a learning experience for yourselves as well going forward.

 

[kopeck]

Can I ask a stupid question and maybe one that's already been answered?

If you really need to run a 120v circulator why not just grab one of the hot legs and use the neutral lead and go with it?

If that's not practical just replace the circulator or use a relay with a separate run to the cirulator. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture here but it seems like there would be a simple non-tranformer solution here.

K

 

[TCaldwell]

any updates?

 

[stefan66]

any updates?

Everything good.
Supplier has bought a new 240V pump
for me.
Fired it up yesterday.
Beautiful burn. Easy to light. My wife will be happy.

 

[skfire]

so I assume nothing got fried in the controller??
also, did they set you up with an esb?

happy burning....keep the wife happy

SK

 

[stefan66]

so I assume nothing got fried in the controller??
also, did they set you up with an esb?

happy burning....keep the wife happy

SK

Nothing got fried.
ESB is not required.
All that's req. is 240V supply with on/off switch and a 240V pump.
That's the way they are designed to be used.

 

[skfire]

Nothing got fried.
ESB is not required.
All that's req. is 240V supply with on/off switch and a 240V pump.
That's the way they are designed to be used.

really???
I am glad you got it working
sk

 

[Quincy]

Hey Stefan 66 glad to hear your up and running Biothermic really came through for you.I am curious how long it takes to bring the tank up to temperature ?How many loads of wood?Start temp and finish temp?How long are the burn times thanks for your reply.I'm considering purchasing a Froling boiler from Biothermic next year any input good or bad would be appreciated thanks again.

 

[boilermanjr]

Tarm Biomass offers a UL listed electrical service box that splits 120 VAC for pump power from the 240 VAC supply. The box assembly also includes a service switch and all of the armored, pre-cut whips that installers need for simple electrical connection. When we sell FHG-L boilers, the service box is standard equipment, but we can also offer it as an accessory item for our Canadian friends. The service box helps to eliminate the type of problems that resulted in this string of postings.

 

[stefan66]

Hey Stefan 66 glad to hear your up and running Biothermic really came through for you.I am curious how long it takes to bring the tank up to temperature ?How many loads of wood?Start temp and finish temp?How long are the burn times thanks for your reply.I'm considering purchasing a Froling boiler from Biothermic next year any input good or bad would be appreciated thanks again.

I've only run the unit for about 8 hours.
All that I've burned so far is some really dry spruce (60+ year old log cabin).
All I know so far is----super easy to light---- pumps out heat like crazy----no smoke after it warms up----only 250-300 Deg. F. Up the stack-----shuts itself down.
Sweeeet
No more wasted BTU's