The latch out (holding circuit) is a good idea. I have a box I built for that purpose that I run my desktop off of. We get frequent outages and the surge when the power comes back on is a killer. Better to manually reset it than fry something.
Time for a new controller
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My worry is not about frying stuff, but having the stove restart and possibly be just cold enough that it would fill the pot with fuel and not lite off.
Much rather have a cold house.
My rewire connects the high limits into the in feed side of the latch out.
So if there was an over temp the stove will shut off and stay off.
It will be easy to tell if it was a stove issue rather than a power drop, as the other things like LED clocks will be blinking if it was a power drop..
I like safety things, it's just good feeling ya know.
Much rather have a cold house.
My rewire connects the high limits into the in feed side of the latch out.
So if there was an over temp the stove will shut off and stay off.
It will be easy to tell if it was a stove issue rather than a power drop, as the other things like LED clocks will be blinking if it was a power drop..
I like safety things, it's just good feeling ya know.
10-4. I had to laugh about flashing LED's.
Every time we drop power, it's a routine to go around setting the clocks, the microwave, the stove.......It sounds like you have it well covered.
We are probably not all that unlike many here at the forum, who's lives revolve around the stove during the heating season.
The stoves are so intertwined into the daily activities that they are almost part of the family it would seem
First rights in the morning are to check the hoppers and fill as needed, (the shells don't roll down well and need to be watched closer than pellets)
The Little Whit is a tad fussy about it's fire pot and the early morning rights also require a shut down of the fuel feed and running the blower/draft fan on high to burn out the pot, then quickly pop the door open and "Swish" the pot with a putty knife to remove excess ash and clinker, leaving enough coals to rekindle the fire.
Turn things back on and GITTYUPGO.
The fire will relight in a few seconds after a couple drops of fuel.
Every 3 days or so of 24/7 running the little dude is going to need the ashes removed and window cleared.
The vent gets sucked out every second or third cleaning.
The big Whit is not as maintenance heavy, but weekly will get ashes cleared and bi weekly get a leaf blower suck job.
The shells require a bit more work, in that we have to scoop them from barrels, screen them into 5 gallon pails, then carry them upstairs.
Not quite as easy as them "PURDY" sacked pellets, but far cheaper.
Life around here revolves around the stoves, keeping them full, clean and running 24/7
I would imagine that to many folks this entire process would leave them aghast, but it's just part of life here at the ranch.
Summer is far different, as we revert to more modern tech and let the AC run on the T STAT and just kick back.
Snowy
The stoves are so intertwined into the daily activities that they are almost part of the family it would seem
First rights in the morning are to check the hoppers and fill as needed, (the shells don't roll down well and need to be watched closer than pellets)
The Little Whit is a tad fussy about it's fire pot and the early morning rights also require a shut down of the fuel feed and running the blower/draft fan on high to burn out the pot, then quickly pop the door open and "Swish" the pot with a putty knife to remove excess ash and clinker, leaving enough coals to rekindle the fire.
Turn things back on and GITTYUPGO.
The fire will relight in a few seconds after a couple drops of fuel.
Every 3 days or so of 24/7 running the little dude is going to need the ashes removed and window cleared.
The vent gets sucked out every second or third cleaning.
The big Whit is not as maintenance heavy, but weekly will get ashes cleared and bi weekly get a leaf blower suck job.
The shells require a bit more work, in that we have to scoop them from barrels, screen them into 5 gallon pails, then carry them upstairs.
Not quite as easy as them "PURDY" sacked pellets, but far cheaper.
Life around here revolves around the stoves, keeping them full, clean and running 24/7
I would imagine that to many folks this entire process would leave them aghast, but it's just part of life here at the ranch.
Summer is far different, as we revert to more modern tech and let the AC run on the T STAT and just kick back.
Snowy
Hi Snowy
I guess Harman decided it was time for a new controller too!
While I was down in Sturbridge MA convention center, I got a personal demo of the new Harman Color Touch Screen Digital Control panel from Dane Harman!
It comes on the New Absolute model with the new style burn pot! It has 6 Pages of Diagnostics! ! ! Harman always does it better!
I like the feature of how many hours left to burn with the fuel in the hopper! One of the initial settings is to dial in the size of the hopper. It does keep track of the # of lbs of pellets used by tracking the revolutions of the auger. Just like my Toyota Scion measures and calculates avererage miles per gallon and gives you how many miles left with the tank of gas, both result in approx numbers and still can vary somewhat. Still a very useful number! LOL
Snowy, Would it be fun to wire up one of these control panels to our stoves? See pics
I guess Harman decided it was time for a new controller too!
While I was down in Sturbridge MA convention center, I got a personal demo of the new Harman Color Touch Screen Digital Control panel from Dane Harman!
It comes on the New Absolute model with the new style burn pot! It has 6 Pages of Diagnostics! ! ! Harman always does it better!
I like the feature of how many hours left to burn with the fuel in the hopper! One of the initial settings is to dial in the size of the hopper. It does keep track of the # of lbs of pellets used by tracking the revolutions of the auger. Just like my Toyota Scion measures and calculates avererage miles per gallon and gives you how many miles left with the tank of gas, both result in approx numbers and still can vary somewhat. Still a very useful number! LOL
Snowy, Would it be fun to wire up one of these control panels to our stoves? See pics
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Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
I mean no disrespect to Harman or anyone else, but why do these companies keep rushing head long into more and more high tech gizmo's on their stoves ????
To me, it makes zero sense to complicate that which needs to be simple to be dependable.
The cool video display looks great, but its just more to fail, and it will.
The stove is not a video game, it's a box that burns fuel, gets hot, and keeps the house warm.
When the fancy video display dies the house is gonna get cold ????????????????????
Snowy
To me, it makes zero sense to complicate that which needs to be simple to be dependable.
The cool video display looks great, but its just more to fail, and it will.
The stove is not a video game, it's a box that burns fuel, gets hot, and keeps the house warm.
When the fancy video display dies the house is gonna get cold ????????????????????
Snowy
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
No, knowing how many hours left with the amount of pellets left in the hopper can help keep it filled and help keep you warm. When the smart phone app comes out, I bet you will be able to set it for a nice beep when there is an hour left.
Arti
Feeling the Heat
Could open the lid and look in the pellet bin .. Works every time and cost is 0
Anyway I can't say that the new controller is bad after all our society is after a lot of flash and glitz. This wouldn't be for me but I'm sure that it will show well in the dealers floor.
On the other hand I'm sure it will be high priority and costly to repair or troubleshoot. Modern gizmos are getting way to complicated for my liking but that's just my lifestyle.
I am a hvac contractor and talk the talk about all the new features on the furnaces and ac units. However a lot had to be said about a standing pilot and thermocouple setup. I have boilers that are 60 years old still heating homes, I suspect that the new Hi Zoot ones that I'm installing will be used up in 20 years.
Arti
No, knowing how many hours left with the amount of pellets left in the hopper can help keep it filled and help keep you warm. When the smart phone app comes out, I bet you will be able to set it for a nice beep when there is an hour left.
When that setup belches due to network outages and your stove goes nuclear don't say you weren't warned. Some contraptions are just unneeded expensive boat anchors waiting to happen.
Oh well I think I'll keep my bucket of parts for another season but gotta install a new auger motor or repair the current one.
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
Looks geared to a younger generation.And as the hopper level is probably a software guess(no level sensor) I would still be opening lid to check.Still haven't heard if stoves are more eff.?Digital dash,touch screen radio and electric windows never made a truck get better fuel economy.
It's not a case of if ya could, it's all about if ya should.
I don't require a computer on my car to get me to the store, nor does my pellet stove need one either
The mechanical relays were a bit to primitive and wore out too fast.
The simple solid state timers are a nice simple blend of reliable technology.
I looked at a pair of washer/drier that had a cell phone interface and full touch screen.
You could set the machine to do the wash and then send you a text when it was done.
My worry would be a text like this.
Warning, BALANCE FAULT, TEARING THE WASH ROOM APART, FLOODING HOUSE WITH WATER.
Or worse, DRIER LINT TRAP FAULT, OVER TEMP WARNING, HOUSE BURNING, FIRE DEPT NOTIFIED
And you are 40 minutes away from home, O M G
No thanks
I don't require a computer on my car to get me to the store, nor does my pellet stove need one either
The mechanical relays were a bit to primitive and wore out too fast.
The simple solid state timers are a nice simple blend of reliable technology.
I looked at a pair of washer/drier that had a cell phone interface and full touch screen.
You could set the machine to do the wash and then send you a text when it was done.
My worry would be a text like this.
Warning, BALANCE FAULT, TEARING THE WASH ROOM APART, FLOODING HOUSE WITH WATER.
Or worse, DRIER LINT TRAP FAULT, OVER TEMP WARNING, HOUSE BURNING, FIRE DEPT NOTIFIED
And you are 40 minutes away from home, O M G
No thanks
Mt Bob
Minister of Fire
A typical house burns completely in 15-20 min!Look at the good side,it could tell you the temp. that your house is burning,and for how long!
It's graduation time and after 8 years I paid my last college bill! Therefore I just may be able to afford that new touch screen control panel and one of those new fancy burn pots too! Hurray!
A typical house burns completely in 15-20 min!
It's graduation time and after 8 years I paid my last college bill! Therefore I just may be able to afford that new touch screen control panel and one of those new fancy burn pots too! Hurray!
Get rid of the mortgage then you might be able to afford a touchy feely control panel etc...
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